Base cost Termies (maybe dumb question)

[Brother Bahram]

In the new errata or FAQ (what ever it called), the base cost is 33 resp 23 for termie and sarg.

It also says ”each terminator is equiped with sb and pf” resp ”sarg is equiped w sb and ps)

Shall I add points for sb and pf / sb and ps when calculating?

[Berzul]

I too do not understand how costs are calculated now

[aura_enchanted]

K so default loadout is free, anything outside the default is not free, so a relic terminator with fist and combi is free weapons, a relic terminator with a chainfist and autocannon pays for his weapons

 

Its like in 7th and older editions, you dont pay for every odd and end

 

Also if there is no listing for an upgrade but he can take the upgrade.. then it is also free

 

As an example assault terminators currently have a typo.. theres no cost for what should be lightning claws at 10 points. So they are at present free to take until faq or errata do you part

Edited October 10, 2020 by aura_enchanted

[Berzul]

So, a Terminator Squad.

 

That is 38 points per model.

 

One comes with Power Sword and Storm Bolter

 

Four come with Power Fists and Storm Bolters.

 

That means, the cost of a Power Sword and Storm Bolter loadout is the same as the cost for a Power Fist and Storm Bolter loadout, right?

[Brother Bahram]

So, a Terminator Squad.

 

That is 38 points per model.

 

One comes with Power Sword and Storm Bolter

 

Four come with Power Fists and Storm Bolters.

 

That means, the cost of a Power Sword and Storm Bolter loadout is the same as the cost for a Power Fist and Storm Bolter loadout, right?

Where do you get 38 from?

Sarg is 23 and regular 33

[Angel of Solitude]

So, per the Index Astartes:

- base cost of a Terminator is 33 points.

- sergeant load out is storm bolter and power sword. No additional points listed for either weapon, so sergeant cost is 33 points.

- standard load out is storm bolter and power fist. Power fist is listed as +5 points, so standard cost is 38 points.

 

If a piece of war gear has an additional cost associated with it, you have to add that to the base cost of the unit. If not, then it is free.

[Angel of Solitude]

As an example assault terminators currently have a typo.. theres no cost for what should be lightning claws at 10 points. So they are at present free to take until faq or errata do you part

No FAQ needed.

 

Base load out for Assault Terminators is SS & TH. The base unit cost is 33 points, and a TH is +10 points. Total cost is therefore 43 points.

 

Swap TH & SS for twin lightning claws, no additional points listed for the lightning claws so the total cost is 33 points.

[Berzul]

 

So, a Terminator Squad.

 

That is 38 points per model.

 

One comes with Power Sword and Storm Bolter

 

Four come with Power Fists and Storm Bolters.

 

That means, the cost of a Power Sword and Storm Bolter loadout is the same as the cost for a Power Fist and Storm Bolter loadout, right?

Where do you get 38 from?

Sarg is 23 and regular 33

Wait, the sergeant is 23? Wouldnt he then be 33, since a Powrr Sword is +5 and a storm bolter is +5?

 

I understood it as 38 points cost for each guy in the squad, which means a base cost of 28, +5 for the sword or power fist, and a +5 for the storm bolter.

 

Thus, a regular squad with no upgrades would be 190 points.

[Brother Bahram]

Sorry. It stod in the app.

In the pdf it’s right - 33

[Brother Bahram]

Now I got it.

Thanks

[Berzul]

Actually, I went back to check.

 

The faq says its 33pts per model. Storm bolters are part of the cost, same as the sgts Power Sword; but, the Power Fists are costed at a +5 per model.

 

So, you pay 33*5 for the squad, which is 165 pts. This includes the sgt with his full gear.

 

Then you pay 20 points for the 4 power fists of the other 4 guys. You are at 185pts.

 

That is the unit's base cost.

 

You could make the Dark Vengeance squad, for instance, for 200 pts. You pay 165 base +15 for 3 power fists +5 for 1 chain fist +10 to upgrade one storm bolter into an assault cannon +5 for the watcher.

 

200 pts total.

Edited October 10, 2020 by Berzul

[Cactus]

Separating the points from unit rules seemed like a good idea at the time.

[Jings]

Actually, I went back to check.

 

The faq says its 33pts per model. Storm bolters are part of the cost, same as the sgts Power Sword; but, the Power Fists are costed at a +5 per model.

 

So, you pay 33*5 for the squad, which is 165 pts. This includes the sgt with his full gear.

 

Then you pay 20 points for the 4 power fists of the other 4 guys. You are at 185pts.

 

That is the unit's base cost.

 

You could make the Dark Vengeance squad, for instance, for 200 pts. You pay 165 base +15 for 3 power fists +5 for 1 chain fist +10 to upgrade one storm bolter into an assault cannon +5 for the watcher.

 

200 pts total.

 

Splitting hairs, but the DV squad didn't come with a Watcher