Daemon Prince Marbas Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 What lore moments involving Chaos Space Marines made you cry? Out of respect for others I do ask that you put spoiler tags if it involves a character death or major plot point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relentless Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 When the Horus Heresy failed Drudge Dreadnought, Llagos_Tyrant, Special Officer Doofy and 8 others 11 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5621529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaurdian31 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 The 3.5 codex for tears of joy and then every codex after for tears of despair. Iron Father Ferrum, The Yncarne, Slave to Darkness and 8 others 11 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5621576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Maybe I am not the overly emotional sort, but I have never been brought to tears by a warhammer book... unless you count that time Draigo carved his former chapter master's name on the Daemon Primarch Mortarion's heart. Rolled my eyes so hard they started watering. Brother Ramael, Khornestar and Dumah 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5621604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadEdric Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 When Angron is kidnapped by the Emperor and forced to watch his armies die. Khornestar, Doom Herald, Relentless and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5621609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Herald Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Maybe the closest involves Argel-tal and his realtionships with Khârn and Lorgar. That whole situation was screwed, Erebus is a PoS, lol. Argel-tal is just tragic in general. Another point that contests with the prior is the death of Uzas in the Night Lords trilogy. This is minor spoilers, but I think that saying a secondary character dies at some point in the course of the 40k universe is just a given. Curze's interaction with The Emperor in the Konrad Curze novel is up there too. A mention also needs to go to Fulgrim repeatedly trying to convert Ferrus Manus and constantly failing. All together, I think a good CSM character is often more human than their loyalist counterparts and seeing that more human aspect makes the tragic events that are normally just a given in the grimdark actually feel tragic. Loyalist stuff, atleast what I've read, often feels more like "only in death does duty end" repeated constantly, which contextually works, but feels less human and by extension makes things feel less tragic. Gederas and Bat33.1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5621612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Herald Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 When Angron is kidnapped by the Emperor and forced to watch his armies die. That's a good one too. Thinking on it, I think the moments that stand out as most tragic are from ADB's novels. That guy is one Hell of a writer. Bat33.1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5621616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 The end of Praetorian of Dorn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5621716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 When Monarchia burned and we had to decide to do what we had to do.Here we are now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5621717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 The end of Void Stalker, before it's Epilogue. Especially, as Doom Herald mentioned above, Uzas' end. Just.... Damn Xenith 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5621730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucerne Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 "All I ever wanted was the truth." "Lorgar! He'll kill you!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5621771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Argel-tal, Erebus and especially the part where Khârn narrowly fails to kill Erebus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5622015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Malcharion the war sage from the NL trilogy aka dreadnaught dad. "Are ya winning Talos?" He was the best character there IMO. Doom Herald 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5622439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Herald Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) Malcharion the war sage from the NL trilogy aka dreadnaught dad. "Are ya winning Talos?" He was the best character there IMO."...I lost my Bolter..." "Take mine, I won't be needing it." Edited October 26, 2020 by Doom Herald Preliminary Bombardment 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5622521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snazzy Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 The Saturnine assault is pretty tragic, to me. We spent several books getting to know Horus Aximand, Tybalt Marr and the evil deeds of the Catulan Reavers, just to see them all massacred in one coup de main. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5622533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goreshed Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 When Perturabo sat in the ashes of Olympia and realized what he had done and what his legion had done. That one spark of hope that there were some legionaries who fought back against the wrongness of it all but seeing what he had created. MegaVolt87 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5623671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reskin Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I cried tears of rejoicing when the Horus Heresy failed... *snicker* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5623740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Yea, the end of Void Stalker for sure. Otherwise, the travesty of the 4th ed GavDex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5623885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azekai Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I cried tears of rejoicing when the Horus Heresy failed... *snicker* Failed? No, I am pretty sure the entire purpose of the heresy was to plunge the galaxy into unending war and/or kill Sanguinius. Special Officer Doofy 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5624089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llagos_Tyrant Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Can't say anything in warhammer has made me cry but there were a couple moments that hit me in the feels. Perturabo in the ruins of Olympia realizing what he'd done, and actually being glad that some of his Iron Warriors had defied him and resisted his orders or even turn on the other Iron Warriors. Really hit me as showing just how ashamed he was over it, considering his history of treatment of the IVth legion. Abaddon in Saturnine when he gets out of the Saturnine gambit, only to be distraught at how that fighting was all he wanted, and it was the pinnacle of his life - and being utterly broken that he was robbed of that death. I've always thought that warhammer 40k and the Horus Heresy has a lot of echoes of ancient Greek and Roman epics, and this in particular felt like it was a moment out of the Iliad. Argel Tal and Erebus when Erebus cuts him down. Was so glad when Khârn just straight up ruined Erebus. I remember Ferrox's end in Storm of Iron leaving an impact. I believe it was just shortly before his death that he regained some of his motivation and came out of his emotionally catatonic state, only to be annihilated by a titan, if I remember correctly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5624117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snazzy Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 The novel Fulgrim bored me to tears. Does that count? ChazSexington, Reskin and Relentless 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5624165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Officer Doofy Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I cried tears of rejoicing when the Horus Heresy failed... *snicker* Failed? No, I am pretty sure the entire purpose of the heresy was to plunge the galaxy into unending war and/or kill Sanguinius. Right. Pretty sure it was a success in the chaos gods eyes. Took the emperor out of commission, killed two loyalist primarchs, divided the empire, kept technology from advancing and caused more eternal strife. Not like they had feelings for Horus or the humans that worshipped them. Reskin 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5624213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgascoine011 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Didnt really bring me to tears, but the best moment for me was angron vs girlyman. The speach angron gives is perfect, he doesnt really care anymore, just wants to destroy as much as possible before he is destroyed himself. Then girlyman counters with, "you are still a slave". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5627584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Didnt really bring me to tears, but the best moment for me was angron vs girlyman. The speach angron gives is perfect, he doesnt really care anymore, just wants to destroy as much as possible before he is destroyed himself. Then girlyman counters with, "you are still a slave". Angorn got to choose his new master and bondage, that's a big difference. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5627706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgascoine011 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Didnt really bring me to tears, but the best moment for me was angron vs girlyman. The speach angron gives is perfect, he doesnt really care anymore, just wants to destroy as much as possible before he is destroyed himself. Then girlyman counters with, "you are still a slave". Angorn got to choose his new master and bondage, that's a big difference. Yess, that’s what I mean Although I don’t think he cared about Horus, in that speech it came across to me as he was fighting for himself against the emperor. It was a speech that really gave both sides to the story. The emperor was a dick, and the imperium was corrupt and useless...but the alternative was not much better (and worse once chaos started to show itself) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367203-tears-for-heretics/#findComment-5627723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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