Debauchery101 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) My codex should be here within a couple days and I wanted to have models ready for some games this weekend. I have access to most of the rules and seem to have a decent idea but mostly I just have indomitus built. I prefer mobile lists but I can play any style but my lack of experience with the new stuff hasn't connected all the dots for combos and synergies yet. Here's what I got Silent king 2 lords 2 skorpekh lords 1 cryptek 2 plasmancers 6 wardens(was thinking to proxy as immortals) 40 gauss warriors 10 reaper warriors 12 scarabs(3 more unbuilt) 1 necron ghost/doomsday ark 1 lokhust hvy destroyer 6 skorpekh destroyers 2 hexmarks 1 doomstalker 1 reanimator Unbuilt 6 wraiths 6 tomb blades 1 triarch stalker I have delayed building the last 3 options because I'm not sure what options to run them with as well as if its worth magnetizing all options The ophydians look great on paper. I may proxy the wraiths for now which aint a problem with my club Any help would be great thanks Edited October 28, 2020 by Debauchery101 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Wraiths I think are just better than Ophydians yet the same points. If I had 6 I'd run basic claws and transdimensional beamers. They may only be S4 but can drop a Gravis marine with a single shot. I'd happily buy your wraiths and tomb blades if you can't decide what to do with them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5623896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debauchery101 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) Wraiths I think are just better than Ophydians yet the same points. If I had 6 I'd run basic claws and transdimensional beamers. They may only be S4 but can drop a Gravis marine with a single shot. I'd happily buy your wraiths and tomb blades if you can't decide what to do with them Edited October 28, 2020 by Debauchery101 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5623962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Thokt Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Tomb Blades with particle weapons is something I'm very interested in. Although 18", the nerf to Tesla has made these very tempting to play. With 6 shots, an extra strength to Tesla/Gauss, and 5pts cheaper, this could be a unit that's great at scoring secondaries such as Engage All Fronts Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5624417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzi Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Wraiths I think are just better than Ophydians yet the same points. If I had 6 I'd run basic claws and transdimensional beamers. They may only be S4 but can drop a Gravis marine with a single shot. I'd happily buy your wraiths and tomb blades if you can't decide what to do with them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5624510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgascoine011 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Oh man, your units are kind of all over the place. Can you turn your reanimator into a doomstalker? If so i would recommend doing that. If you can get 3 doomstalkers then i would recommend doing that, and having your cryptek be a technomancer, giving them +1 to hit 2 units of 20 gauss warriors is good try and get the other unit to 20 as well, 40 S5 AP-2 shots is pretty decent Plasmancers are pretty useless, maybe proxy them as chronomancers? 5 Skorpek destroyers, with 5 wraiths is good. Dont go above 5 or blast becomes a thing. Skorphek Lords are cool, would take both of them The silent king is cool, but you really need to build around him, and that involves taking 2 units of 10 preatorians. Unfortunatly your paying for buffs for units that are not really affected by it, or can be done cheaper. The DDA and doomstalkers are super cool, but really you need 3 of them to offset their randomness And if you are taking doomstalkers then you are taking a technomancer, which means you dont want DDA. You really want to be taking one or the other. Ghost arks are ok, provided they remain alive all game and can bring D3 models back then they actually make their points back...while putting out a decent ammount of fire power Would only take 1 though. Scarabs are amazing, As for list, unsure on points but would be something like HQ Skorpek Lord Skorpek Lord Technomancer (+1 to hit, & cant be targeted unless closest) Chronomancer (Veil and S8 Gun, give the 5++ to your destroyers before teleporting away with 20 warriros) Troops 20 warriors 20 warriors 20 warriors Transport Ghost Ark Elites 5 Skorpek Destroyers Fast Attack 5 Wraiths 5 Scarabs 5 Scarabs Heavy Support Doomstalker Doomstalker Doomstalker (Proxy your reaminator if you have too) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5624536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Doomstalkers are a lot larger than reanimators Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5624675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzi Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I would not be in a hurry to trash a Reanimator just because they aren't great right now. I figure it's good odds they get a decent point cut when the next Chapter Approved drops. No need to wreck models chasing a fleeting meta. 01RTB01 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5624807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stupidity Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 GW hates to acknowledge huge mistakes though. It is functionally flawed, not just overpriced. The Reanimator needs to drop half its current points. Likely it will lose like 10-20% next update. Ahzek451 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5624820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzi Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 GW hates to acknowledge huge mistakes though. It is functionally flawed, not just overpriced. The Reanimator needs to drop half its current points. Likely it will lose like 10-20% next update. Most likely true. But I don't see value in the poor Doomstalker conversions I've seen taking place on the internet. I've been in the hobby long enough to come to regret my conversions from a poor units to the current flavor of the month. The meta moves too fast to chase it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5624821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miek Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Well there are pretty neat reanimator to Spyder conversions though :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5624824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I'm sure the Doomstalkers will get a points hike when time comes for it. Dear warrior reapers will too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5624827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgascoine011 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I hope not I don’t think the doom stalker is in anyway broken or over costed. The reason people are taking 3 is because of the near mandatory investment of a technomancer. I don’t think reaper warriors are over coated as well. I would only run 1 unit, and even then, only is using veil of darkness. I expect super object secured to be nerfed into nothingness Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5624979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miek Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 The super objsec seems rather generic, don't you think most factions would instead gain this trait in their equivalent of custom dynasties? Then again, if it reduces diversity in tournaments it's a bad thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5625039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debauchery101 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 I would suggest anyone going to a tournament with trying to use converted Reanimators as doomstalkers to check ahead if its cool. The doom stalker is almost 3 inches taller and has a larger base. I had no idea it had a huge size difference and I made one myself. the TOs around here said it has to be as big or bigger and using the bigger base Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367297-i-want-some-advice-for-making-a-list/#findComment-5626053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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