TheNewman Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 I remember there being an errata in a Big FAQ or a CA somewhere that said Daemon units couldn't just be summoned out of thin air anymore and had to be paid for as part of the list. I can't find that rule anymore, does anyone know what I'm talking about and whether it still exists? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367306-newb-question-on-summoning/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluejayJunior Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 It should be in the reinforcements rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367306-newb-question-on-summoning/#findComment-5623956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewman Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 I read those before I posted, I'll have to look at them again next time I have the rulebook handy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367306-newb-question-on-summoning/#findComment-5623974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Yeah, I didn't see them in the reinforcement rules either - I think they are in the matched play rules. I will see if I can find them for you tonight when I have access to my rule book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367306-newb-question-on-summoning/#findComment-5624004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewman Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 I finally found it, it's on page 241 in the section on building an army. In matched play if you want to use a rule that would add a unit to your army or replace a destroyed unit from your army you have to have set aside some of your points as Reserve Points to pay for the new unit. Rules that add models to an existing unit do not hit this restriction. Summoning has some value as a Deep Strike that doesn't cost CP, but it renders some o the Tyranid strats completely pointless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367306-newb-question-on-summoning/#findComment-5624060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Those tyranid strats are useless in matched play because they weren't designed for matched play. Same with the Valhallan specific stratagem in the Astra Milatarum book. Genestealer Cults also have a generally useless summoning stratagem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367306-newb-question-on-summoning/#findComment-5624172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewman Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 I knew the strats were pointless, that wasn't what I was after. I was trying to find the rule in the book that makes those strats pointless. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367306-newb-question-on-summoning/#findComment-5624649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_b Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Those tyranid strats are useless in matched play because they weren't designed for matched play. Same with the Valhallan specific stratagem in the Astra Milatarum book. Genestealer Cults also have a generally useless summoning stratagem. At least in GSC if you want to avoid the only one character type per detachment you can pay the points and summon in the same character, like two kellermorphs, etc. I don't know if it's been changed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367306-newb-question-on-summoning/#findComment-5660835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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