Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 It was in Codex Armageddon, it wasn't actually released that long after the standard version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5723959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 It was in Codex Armageddon, it wasn't actually released that long after the standard version. Our crusader squads could take the LRC as a troop transport, THAT's what it was, didn't have to waste the heavy support slot. Sword Brother Adelard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5723969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 BA used to be able to take land raiders as transports and deep strike them. Bjorn Firewalker and CastellanDeMolay 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5724069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) Should consider running fires of devotion on one of the chaplains and running assault intercessors instead of crusaders. On the charge you'll have 5 attacks each 2+1+1+1 means every model gets an autowound pretty much. They don't cost much more than crusaders and they can actually perform if they need to. Crusaders are cheap but they are literally just an ornament base 1 attack S4, -1 AP... Even if you make it into melee most shooting units will swing back harder than the crusaders swing hahaYou should also consider that with every intercassor lost you'll lose all those 5 attacks.I mean... Obviously? With any model lost you lose all their attacks. I don't really see the point you are making. I've watched Implausible Nature play multiple intercessor squads in most their games, haven't seen them run many crusader squads. As far as I know IN are the most competitive Templar players right now. So, I lean towards following their example. We appreciate the support, truly! Alex and I are tuned to competitive play, though I am the tournament goer. With that being said, we do make mistakes and are not infallible. While I have won many tournaments over the years, so have a number of other players. We might be the household name for the BT community, but there are great BT players out there. You are the Commander of the the Eternal Crusader. You are our flaggship. @BBF - Blood Angels deepstriking LR was 5th edition. In 3rd edition we could take more then 1 LRC (dont know if dedicated transports were a thing back then). The LRC as dedicated transport was 100 percent in 4th edition codex AND in all others too. But LRC were not good after 5th edition. Edited July 28, 2021 by Medjugorje BayOkuz and Trignama 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5724127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 After so much discussions and rumors I think I have an idea how our Supplement could be. its just a thought but over last month I often hit the nail about a lot of things. GW really try to write the rules that the specific playstyle (how a army should be played in the lore) works well + new designed rulsets which are based on beloved old mechanics . Dark eldar for example are very fast and hit extremly hard, they dont defend anything - its an army which attack. Death guard is slowly roll over the enemy. Grey Knights are a real melee army now. Very scary. And after rumors were posted, i remember that our chapter doctrine used to be a very aggressive mechanized assault force focused on short distance and close combat. So it means not one fully buffed squad with devine protection is going forward and kill something .... our whole army is charging. After the vehicle kid and ( rumors said invulvs on tanks) a high possibility for having better transports + melee SB and CS we will get something like this: I think one of our Vows "Accept any challenge, no matter the odds" will come back with "fight first" abilite for each unitand reroll all hits in assault doctrine for example. What we saw often is that units with a strong "belief" get "no rerolls for the enemy". So I think it could be a stratagem for us. redmapa and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5732469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 do you think the Crusadersquad will be like the Primaris Crusadersquad. With SB +5 Initiates + 4 Neophytes minimum? Could be a thing. Would be a nice mechanic for GW to make the old crusadersquad obsolete. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5743427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 It became obsolete the minute there was models for the latter ;) :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5743429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) It became obsolete the minute there was models for the latter The whole 8th edition the normal Captain used to be better then the Primaris ones. The main problem for Marines is the current state of the game. You have to "trade" effeciently. We used to be in a good spot because the 5 man squad was the cheapest troop choice. The new Primaris Crusadersquad is at least 6x19 points + 4x14 if not way pricier. I dont know how this choice could be competitive in any way - even they would deal 3 MW each turn in addition to any other damage.... NOT EVEN THEN Edited September 19, 2021 by Medjugorje Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5743438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 It was a joke on the improvement of quality of the models. I know the models themselves don't have any bearing on competetive play :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5743442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 i know i know but i want to keep this conversation into another dircetion. I slowly fear that we will loose all major points what have made us great. Hopefully the new rules will compensate that enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5743520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmmmm Napalm Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 tbh I hope they retain the Sword Brother being optional, but allow me to run an Initiate with sergeant weapons; I made Assault Intercessor sergeants that I just don't feel comfortable painting as Sword Brethren anymore because of the amount of bling on the new ones lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5743626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 The Sword Brother isn't optional crunch wise now, but you can just choose not to paint the model as one Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5743650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 The Sword Brother isn't optional crunch wise now, but you can just choose not to paint the model as one The article literally says you have the OPTION to build a sword brother in the unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5743757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Crunch is rules. It's not currently a rules option to not take one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5743772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 tbh I hope they retain the Sword Brother being optional, but allow me to run an Initiate with sergeant weapons; I made Assault Intercessor sergeants that I just don't feel comfortable painting as Sword Brethren anymore because of the amount of bling on the new ones lol from a competitive view its not an option. You have to take one BLACK BLΠFLY and Sword Brother Adelard 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367408-wishlist-for-a-supplement/page/21/#findComment-5743806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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