Karhedron Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Correct me if I’m wrong. But I think litanies are done in the command phase, so the Wolf priest would not be able to use it on a BC pack drop podding in There is a stratagem that allows a Priest to chant a litany out of phase and have it auto-succeed if he has not already chanted that turn. It costs 2CPs (I think it is Masterful Oratory). It is basically designed to let a Canticle Priest chant when he comes on from Reserves. Give the Priest the Wulfen Stone too and you can reroll those charges as well as add +2". Lukas for rerolls to hit. A Rune priest to bump into the Assault Doctrine. At this rate you will need a second pod. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5627674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUnlikelyGamer84 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Correct me if I’m wrong. But I think litanies are done in the command phase, so the Wolf priest would not be able to use it on a BC pack drop podding in If he used the strat for it he could. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5627692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabulousRex Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Seems like we have a unique opportunity to slam Troops onto objectives with Drop Pods that are really nasty up close. Tacticals just don't have enough juice to be good in a pod, you gotta use Elite choices for Vanilla Marines. I like knowing my Troops can beat any other Troop in the game point for point, barring maybe Custodes... theprophetofwar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5627745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 If the litany is used to create an aura a priest can generate it on the board for arriving units Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5627821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 If the litany is used to create an aura a priest can generate it on the board for arriving units That's the idea. 1. Drop the Priest and auto-chant Canticle of Hate. 2. Drop a ring of nasty melee units around him (Wolf Guard in TDA or with Jump Packs are good, Drop Pods also work). 3. Charge the hated foe. 4. Profit! For extra effectiveness, try and put in a source of Charge rerolls. Fortunately we have at least 3 of these in our roster. 1. Wulfenstone. Cheap and easy to give the Priest as a relic. 2. Chapter Champion with special WLT. Needs a drop pod. 3. Ragnar. No option for drop pod so a bit harder to use but flinging him out of an Impulsor with the BGV bodyguards is viable. theprophetofwar and Konnavaer 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5627853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar69 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 But I wouldn't put too many points into a drop pod strike. Else a few Nurglings or Infiltrators could really ruin your day. Dark Shepherd and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5627891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squark Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) Correct me if I’m wrong. But I think litanies are done in the command phase, so the Wolf priest would not be able to use it on a BC pack drop podding in There's a strategem thay lets you activate an unused Litany at the beginning of any phase for 2 CP (1 CP for Masters of sanctity with the Wise Orator warlord trait). Edit: Didn't realize the mobile site hadn't opened up the most recent page >.> Edited November 5, 2020 by Squark Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5627898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Correct me if I’m wrong. But I think litanies are done in the command phase, so the Wolf priest would not be able to use it on a BC pack drop podding in There's a strategem thay lets you activate an unused Litany at the beginning of any phase for 2 CP (1 CP for Masters of sanctity with the Wise Orator warlord trait). Edit: Didn't realize the mobile site hadn't opened up the most recent page >.> I suspect that that strat will be FAQd to either autopass or out of sequence, maybe a choice, but not both Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5627904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 The strat costs 2CP so seems fairly balanced to me. Most likely it will get used only once per game. It is only 1CP for the Master of Sanctity but you are spending a CP to buy the appropriate WLT (unless the Chappy is you only Warlord). Also the WLT allows 2 chants per turn but the stratagem only works if the Chappy has not chanted any litanies yet. This means that a MoS has to give up one of his chants if he uses the stratagem. IMO it has enough restrictions on it already. Kallas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5627905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Yeah I think Karhedron is right the stratagem shouldn't be nerfed. It has fairly reasonable restrictions, costs 2 cp, and doesn't guarantee a successful charge. That and chaplains haven't really been a popular hq for a long time they needed this IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5627908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Its speculation on my part and I could well be (badly) wrong, but litanies are exempt from rerolls, chaplain normally has to be on the board, and it is potentially gamewinningly powerful if used right Kallas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5627966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallas Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Its speculation on my part and I could well be (badly) wrong, but litanies are exempt from rerolls, chaplain normally has to be on the board, and it is potentially gamewinningly powerful if used right You're correct. Litanies are not listed in the Command Reroll stratagem as an option, so you can't reroll using that. Even a Wise Orator has a 1 in 6 chance of failing. PeteySödes and Dark Shepherd 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5627990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Its speculation on my part and I could well be (badly) wrong, but litanies are exempt from rerolls, chaplain normally has to be on the board, and it is potentially gamewinningly powerful if used right You're correct. Litanies are not listed in the Command Reroll stratagem as an option, so you can't reroll using that. Even a Wise Orator has a 1 in 6 chance of failing. Oh I meant Im speculating that the strat will be errata'd/nerfed :) (If thats what you meant) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5628031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Legionnare Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Everybody is correct here with the strat, thanks for explaining for me! Also, since I have an insatiable addiction for Grey Hunters, I'll probably more often run the pod crew (or stormeagle crew)as Wolf Guard. Only 1pt more per guy for guaranteed base 2A, LD8, and a Boltgun w/ the vast access to combis, fists, ss, etc... With most other than the combis being at a cheaper cost than usual. Gunna' be a good edition for Wolf Guard, both normal and Termies. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5628099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 The ability to configure WG for almost any role makes them great. I am considering converting my Skyclaws to WG with Jump Packs (or just building another squad). LC, SS, JP looks really strong. 2W with a 2+/4++ and fly + Deep Strike. 4 Attacks on the charge, hitting on 2s and rerolling all wounds. They can blend pretty much any infantry unit. Put a TH on the Pack Leader and they can put a decent dent into most vehicles too. That flying ball of death comes in at under 300 points for the lot. I am sure fun can be had with Terminators too. One of the Fraters had great success with Combi-plas in late 8th edition but since "Fury of the First" no longer prevents overheats, combi melta may be more useful in 9th. Some experimentation is called for I think. Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5628161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 i run two squad of grey hunters one with2 flamers power sword one with 2 meltas power sword, both in pods whilst my claws rhino up table both 9 with a olf guard (kit varies) my intercesors baby sit my long fangs with stalker bolters# with a flank attack of thunder wolves fenrisian wolf screen i hold my wolf guard termies in reserve to fill gaps very little enemy survives this method i find the control of movement and space along with the pressure of the pods thros most badies plans in the mud i nearly always run a rune priest and wolf priest wolf priest with the wulfen stone with blood claws and runie chap with the long fang's my two pennys worth Konnavaer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367418-troops/page/2/#findComment-5628186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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