Fulgrim on the horizon?

[Angry Banana]

Hi all,

 

In the latest story arc for AoS called Broken Realms, in the first book Slaanesh who is currently imprisoned by the elves, gives birth to an offspring which apprently has a snake lower body.

 

Now, this is a truly long shot, but Slaanesh is getting lots of love in AoS with this story arc being the herald of possibly Tzaangor kits and more... but...

 

now, were the offspring of Slaanesh to have a snakelike lower body, and be heroic demigod size, potentially it could mean that you might get a Son of slaanesh named AoS character or  Slaanesh / Fulgrim daemon prince dual kit.

 

Food for thought and it would make sense to kill two birds with one stone.

[grailkeeper]

There have been a few slaaneshi characters with snake lower halves- Dechala the Denied One is an example.

 

Daemons are the only example I can think of where 40k and AOS models are in the same kit. That being said Fulgrim is such an iconic 40k character I doubt he'll be in a kit to make an AOS character. Maybe the AOS kit could be converted into Fulgrim but I'd say he'll be a stand alone model. I doubt GW will kill two birds with one stone- they'll want people to buy two birds!

Edited November 12, 2020 by grailkeeper

[Chapter Master Valrak]

[Marshal Loss]

I do think Fulgrim/EC is on the horizon, production problems permitting, if Slaanesh is going to get a big mortal release in AoS - but nah, there's no way they'll make his Primarch kit a dual box with AoS.

[Xenith]

It won't be fulgrim. It's not Morathi is it? Either way, as per grailkeeper, many Slaaneshi characters are depicted with snake bodies, like Dechala, and other classic fantasy chaos warriors. 

 

Unless they're trying to tie the universes together again, and the broken realm/slaanesh prison is within the 'eye of terror' indicated in the old daemon army books, Fulgrim was (re)born on that crone world after stuffing himself full of spirit stones, right?

 

Otherwise, there have been continuous hints since 8th ed of pale white snake creatures causign havok in the universe - Fulgrim is definitely being foreshadowed, and is indeed on the horizon. 

[Marshal Loss]

Also, I just went back to the relevant page in the book: it is described as being winged, but "has not chosen a form yet" - so no mention of a snake body at all.

 

For those interested (pls forgive AoS content, mods)

 

[jaxom]

I think an EC release is likely as they get the Supplement treatment whenever Codex: Chaos Space Marines comes out. I don't think Fulgrim is likely. I think the Silent King and Void Dragon are "the big kits" of 9th edition. I think a redesigned Lucius or a Daemon Prince Eidolon would be more likely.

 

I'd be very happy for EC and primarch fans if I'm wrong, but I'd put more hope into new kits in general and not Fulgrim-in-specific.

[01RTB01]

I think an EC release is likely as they get the Supplement treatment whenever Codex: Chaos Space Marines comes out. I don't think Fulgrim is likely. I think the Silent King and Void Dragon are "the big kits" of 9th edition. I think a redesigned Lucius or a Daemon Prince Eidolon would be more likely.

 

I'd be very happy for EC and primarch fans if I'm wrong, but I'd put more hope into new kits in general and not Fulgrim-in-specific.

If EC get a supplement and no Fulgrim I'll eat my keeper of secrets for starters and follow it with a monolith main.

 

To say there's only a couple of big kits for a whole edition is folly surely?!

Edited November 12, 2020 by 01RTB01

[Marshal Loss]

Redesigned Lucius is a given. But there's no world in which GW would release EC without Fulgrim. Primarchs are a license to print money and the community obsesses over them, GW aren't going to pass up that opportunity

[01RTB01]

Redesigned Lucius is a given. But there's no world in which GW would release EC without Fulgrim. Primarchs are a license to print money and the community obsesses over them, GW aren't going to pass up that opportunity

Totally. I don't obsess over fulgrim or plastic noise marines though... (24 years...)

[Minuros]

I am pretty confident that both Emperor’s Children and World Eaters will have a release eventually. They are no longer included in the new chaos space marine and chaos terminators transfer sheet. Following that logic when they are released for sure they will have at least a primarch, terminator and cult marine box each.

I am so sure about this I stopped working on my Emperor’s Children army and instead will use my army boxes to build a Black Legion force. Don’t want to start an army and have my daemon engines not be usable anymore 

[smileyjim]

I'm pretty sure it was confirmed fulgrim was alpharious all along

[Slan Drakkos]

It won't be fulgrim. It's not Morathi is it? Either way, as per grailkeeper, many Slaaneshi characters are depicted with snake bodies, like Dechala, and other classic fantasy chaos warriors. 

This. There's plenty of Slaaneshi characters with Snake like lower halves. With that said, Dechala is already in AoS.

 

Unless they're trying to tie the universes together again

 

what do you mean by "again"? The universe of 40k, Fantasy, and Bloodbowl have been tied together pretty consistently throughout the last few years.

 

Otherwise, there have been continuous hints since 8th ed of pale white snake creatures causign havok in the universe - Fulgrim is definitely being foreshadowed, and is indeed on the horizon.

 

This is also true. Fulgrim is in 40k, whatever Slaanesh gave birth to isn't him. With that said, it would be weird for GW to not do a full Slaanesh reveal for both settings.

[N1SB]

Brothers, to give credit where it is due, you guys were right about Fulgrim:

Not since the return of Roboute Guilliman (whom he put into stasis btw) have I been so shocked by a reveal. Great job, guys. I might be transferring from the Shattered Xth to the IIIrd.

[Paturabo]

Brothers, to give credit where it is due, you guys were right about Fulgrim:

Not since the return of Roboute Guilliman (whom he put into stasis btw) have I been so shocked by a reveal. Great job, guys. I might be transferring from the Shattered Xth to the IIIrd.

That isn't Fulgrim but an Age of Sigmar character Sigvald the Magnificent. In Old World Warhammer Fantasy he was a named chaos lord of Slaanesh and it appears he's returning as a Daemon Prince.

He'd make a great Fulgrim conversion don't get me wrong, but he's not our perfect primarch.

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Beautiful model.  If he's big enough, with some conversion he would make a great  wingless demon prince.

[Xenith]

 

Unless they're trying to tie the universes together again

what do you mean by "again"? The universe of 40k, Fantasy, and Bloodbowl have been tied together pretty consistently throughout the last few years.

 

 

From the onset of 8th ed Fantasy, possibly?

 

They were originally all tied together, with the hint that the Old World was just one world in the 40k Universe, that Sigmar was a Primarch, the crashed Thunderhawk in the old world was a hint, etc, however from the early 2000's Graham McNeill wrote the Sigmar novel, which severed the connection - Sigmar was now just a guy, no special heritage, etc. There was no overlap in the background etc, as far as I know. 

 

The only hint that they were the same was in that Daemon Codex which had a map with "the Eye of Terror" on it. AoS is a different universe - the named Daemons can inhabit the multiverse, which is why you see them in both systems.

 

Would love to have up to date info saying they're tied together again if you have it though!

[Closet Skeleton]

Sigmar always had a backstory with human birth parents that ruled him out as being a primarch. Sigmar's comet was confirmed as just a Warpstone meteor that returned periodically until crashing into Mordheim when that game came out, freeing Belakor who had some connection to it. Time of Legends books made no sense in canon, I only read the first Nagash one but that completely contradicted every source it touched upon.

 

Blood Bowl has never been canon to Warhammer fantasy. Its a parody alternate universe.

 

There were constant in jokes between the settings but they were never more than that outside of a easy to miss section in one of the Realm of Chaos books and those are full of ideas that got dropped.

Edited November 23, 2020 by Closet Skeleton

[Slan Drakkos]

 

 

Unless they're trying to tie the universes together again

 

what do you mean by "again"? The universe of 40k, Fantasy, and Bloodbowl have been tied together pretty consistently throughout the last few years.

 

From the onset of 8th ed Fantasy, possibly?

 

They were originally all tied together, with the hint that the Old World was just one world in the 40k Universe, that Sigmar was a Primarch, the crashed Thunderhawk in the old world was a hint, etc, however from the early 2000's Graham McNeill wrote the Sigmar novel, which severed the connection - Sigmar was now just a guy, no special heritage, etc. There was no overlap in the background etc, as far as I know. 

 

The only hint that they were the same was in that Daemon Codex which had a map with "the Eye of Terror" on it. AoS is a different universe - the named Daemons can inhabit the multiverse, which is why you see them in both systems.

 

Would love to have up to date info saying they're tied together again if you have it though!

As I recall, Grombrindal from Bloodbowl explicitly stated in a sort of letter page. The lore of Syll'Esske also states that Esske comes from a different plane of existence, entered into the real of chaos, and is now a daemon prince in AoS (they also make a small appearance in 40k exclusive Phoenix Rising event). That's all that I have off of the top of my head, but it seems like GW has been keeping up with the chaos gods being multiversal.