Medjugorje Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 It's not really your whole view of the UM's, just one character. Dante got this treatment a few years ago in his book by Haley. and Helbrecht too as he lied about his numbers for the crusade for Armageddon to get the command for the entire Adeptus Astartes fleet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5631027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Nothing to see here ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5631043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I got the first two issues. Great comic. I enjoyed it. I agree that it went a long ways to finally making Ultramarines more interesting. Not just Margneus, the background in general. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5631071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerOrders Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 So local marine from a bloodline obsessed with legacy and honoring their fallen dead took an action to honor the legacy if the honored dead? And he did so by a well-established Astartes tradition too... Honestly this is the opposite of ground-breaking for the setting for anyone with more than a passing awareness. It only takes the step of making Calgar more likable and giving a fairly solid reason for why he is well-loved, since what he did was extremely UM. I sort of loathe these comics as a premise tbh and am genuinely shocked at how well-ish this is turning out. Not because they bring more people in, that is fantastic, but because they are written by people that seem to not even meet BL's standards for knowing the setting. More a creator than an audience problem idk. I am actually fairly pleased with this since, even if accidentally, the author stumbled onto some well-troden lore and themes , bringing them to wider awareness. As someone that adores the legacy-component of the Astartes, I am exceedingly happy. Now if someone could make whoever wrote that review familiarize themselves with the content they are reviewing, Id be truly happy. Just please god dont let this turn into another 'hEy GUys the UM actually suck' meme. I have had my fill of those. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5631103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer le Boucher Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 The biggest issue i have is that there was a Chaos infiltrated Agent, a secret operative...of KHORNE (of all things), doing this for years... In the UM backyard, and No one ever suspected that there was something weird going on?... I can let the "Too Conceited to know something is afoot" thing go, we know Marines are arrogant... But a SECRET OPERATIVE OF KHORNE!!!. Nope...,absolutly :cussing not, :cuss this, :cuss that, and :cuss It!... Thank the God of Skulls that since its a comic, it ain't canon... No one will give a :cuss about it in a few months, and what only matters is whats in the BL Novels, The Codexes and the Ruelbook, anything else is temporary Deviant Art Fanfic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5631431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Is just an account giving by a source that is not trust worthy to say the least. Plus is Marvel and their track record is abysmal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5631438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix01 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 Is just an account giving by a source that is not trust worthy to say the least. Plus is Marvel and their track record is abysmal.So I'm not trustworthy? Gee thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5631710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) Give it a few months nobody will even remember much less care. What if Marvel sed he’s a potato ? Edited November 16, 2020 by Black Blow Fly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5631715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 This would be significant if there was any shape or form of classism in space marine hierarchies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5631974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 The third book is out... get ready for yet another retcon. Gosh darn Marvel errrrrrgh !!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5642520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucerne Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 The biggest issue i have is that there was a Chaos infiltrated Agent, a secret operative...of KHORNE (of all things), doing this for years... In the UM backyard, and No one ever suspected that there was something weird going on?... I can let the "Too Conceited to know something is afoot" thing go, we know Marines are arrogant... But a SECRET OPERATIVE OF KHORNE!!!. Nope...,absolutly :cussing not, this, that, and It!... Thank the God of Skulls that since its a comic, it ain't canon... No one will give a about it in a few months, and what only matters is whats in the BL Novels, The Codexes and the Ruelbook, anything else is temporary Deviant Art Fanfic. The Ultramarines just aren't very good at their self-appointed role of overseer- or apparently, at cleaning up debris from the Shadow Crusade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5642534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Read the new issue the Khorne operative gets diced in half... turns out they were just drawing him out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5642563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenIronhand Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 So, I guess I was right about the two kids being the Chaos leaders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5642679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 What are you on about now ?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5643044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askari Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Being an agent of khorne doesn't mean you're automatically a frothing madman. No khornate warlord would even be able to exist for any period of time if that were the case. Posing as a trainer for program with a high mortality rate on a hostile death moon is a perfect way to sacrifice people under everyone's nose. Rik Lightstar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5644558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Mebbe - seems like quite a stretch to me but hey this is Marvel . :rolleyes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367603-spoiler-alert-marneus-calgar-is/page/3/#findComment-5644561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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