RedemptionNL Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 It looks like Mephiston and the Librarian Dread are fixed to using only powers from the Sanguinary Discipline in the new codex, so that means null zone is out for those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 NOoooo !! confirmed?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCE1981 Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 Based on the Datasheet leak, yeah only Blood Angel Discipline Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 A bummer for sure but at least our other librarians have a niche now. Morticon 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Surely we still get to use the sarcophagus as it's listed in the Marine Codex for us to use? They wouldn't put something BA in there only to invalidate it within two months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 It looks like Mephiston and the Librarian Dread are fixed to using only powers from the Sanguinary Discipline in the new codex, so that means null zone is out for those two. This is the same as the SW entry for Njal so I guess it is not entirely surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyros Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 It seems the sarcophagus has been removed. In addition, yes, Mephiston and Dreadnought choose from Sanguinary disciple. For the rest it reads: "psyker models in a BA detachment CAN know all of their psychik power from the Sanguinary discipline INSTEAD of the Librarius or Obscuration..." Does this mean that plain librarians can really choose from the other disciplines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Yes it does. Our normal librarians are taken from the regular SM codex so draw from the Librarius or Obscuration Disciplines as appropriate. The BA Dex allows us the option to draw from the Sanguinary discipline but we don't have to. Having a Jump Libby with Null Zone could be a very tasty option with Sanguinary Guard for when they encounter opponents with a tough Invuln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileyjim Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Surely we still get to use the sarcophagus as it's listed in the Marine Codex for us to use? They wouldn't put something BA in there only to invalidate it within two months. Its GW mate. Looks like it's gone otherwise it would be in the BA codex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hintzy Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Surely we still get to use the sarcophagus as it's listed in the Marine Codex for us to use? They wouldn't put something BA in there only to invalidate it within two months. The Sarcophagus was in the BA pdf index, not the Codex. Karhedron and Jolemai 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 The space wolves had a few things in their Index that didn't survive into the Codex IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Surely we still get to use the sarcophagus as it's listed in the Marine Codex for us to use? They wouldn't put something BA in there only to invalidate it within two months. The Sarcophagus was in the BA pdf index, not the Codex. Ahhh, right. Cheers :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaezus Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 What niche does the libby dread fill now? Some initial thoughts pros He makes a mean gravis killer Can use wings - flying dreadnoughts are always rightly feared Good potential for turn 1 charge with wings Character rule allows protection for setting up turn 1 charge even if you go second Good backfield support & beatstick combo Decent mortal wound output if you focus on the witchfire powers and cons Mephiston exists Duty eternal is little protection vs anti vehicle weapons Base size makes him unsuitable for heroic interventions Can't take relics Standard librarians can do the same things for less points Really sad to put my boxy blue fella back on the shelf. For now, hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 He can pick his own warlord trait, which is pretty good when you think compared to Mephiston. Since he can have up to two warlord trait maybe give him something to make him super tanky and then he can use angles sacrifice. His high toughness helps negate most attacks that would rip your valuable infantry on an objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherAetherick Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 With Duty Eternal he tanks dmg 2 like a boss. And Dmg 2 is everywhere now since marines are 2 wounds now. WS3 with very little access to rerolls is a bummer tho, his Knight 1 shot days are likely over. Being able to provide Captain/LT rerolls is very nice on such a big base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Darn, was planning on taking a might of heroes/null zone dread alongside a sanguinary mephiston... oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) EDIT: nvm Edited November 28, 2020 by Majkhel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCE1981 Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 Just re-read the three different pages of rules. The Librarian Dreadnought cannot take the Chief Librarian Neural Shroud Relic, all Chapter Command Relics "(these are considered to be Chapter Relics for all rules purposes)". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerninja Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Quick question, would we be able to pick the artisan of war WLT to then pick a relic or is that against the rules that prohibits vehicles from having relics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Quick question, would we be able to pick the artisan of war WLT to then pick a relic or is that against the rules that prohibits vehicles from having relics? I'm guessing the latter.....if a vehicle can't take a Relic one way, why would it be able to another unless specifically worded otherwise? Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerninja Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Quick question, would we be able to pick the artisan of war WLT to then pick a relic or is that against the rules that prohibits vehicles from having relics? I'm guessing the latter.....if a vehicle can't take a Relic one way, why would it be able to another unless specifically worded otherwise? Perfect, then I play it like that. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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