Karhedron Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Its a patrol + a Vanguard 2HQs + 3 Troops + 2 Fast Attack 1 HQ + 4 Elites Do you think giving the 1 Terminator squad ObjSec is worth the 2CP cost of running 2 Detachments? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5676079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzul Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 Its a patrol + a Vanguard 2HQs + 3 Troops + 2 Fast Attack 1 HQ + 4 Elites Do you think giving the 1 Terminator squad ObjSec is worth the 2CP cost of running 2 Detachments? Wouldn't the ancient and the knights also get it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5676082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulshra Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Its a patrol + a Vanguard 2HQs + 3 Troops + 2 Fast Attack 1 HQ + 4 Elites Do you think giving the 1 Terminator squad ObjSec is worth the 2CP cost of running 2 Detachments?Wouldn't the ancient and the knights also get it? Only normal, dw, assault, and relic terminators get it, not knights or ancients Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5676083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzul Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 Its a patrol + a Vanguard 2HQs + 3 Troops + 2 Fast Attack 1 HQ + 4 Elites Do you think giving the 1 Terminator squad ObjSec is worth the 2CP cost of running 2 Detachments?Wouldn't the ancient and the knights also get it?Only normal, dw, assault, and relic terminators get it, not knights or ancients I thought all Core Deathwing Infantry got it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5676084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) No, only the units listed below, not all Deathwing units. Personally I would either rejig the list to take more units below or re-arrange it as a single Battalion. With the 2CPs you save, you could give one of your Characters the "Rites of War" WLT which would likely give you more ObjSec in practice. Edited March 8, 2021 by Karhedron Berzul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5676121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzul Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 No, only the units listed below, not all Deathwing units. Personally I would either rejig the list to take more units below or re-arrange it as a single Battalion. With the 2CPs you save, you could give one of your Characters the "Rites of War" WLT which would likely give you more ObjSec in practice. It can easily be taken as a single Battalion, in any case. Requires no real change in models or units. But, the list already uses the second Warlord Trait on the Lieutenant. So, Rites of War is not really a possibility. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5676147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 But, the list already uses the second Warlord Trait on the Lieutenant. So, Rites of War is not really a possibility. Your list is a Strike Force since it is in the 1001-2000 points category. This means you can use Hero of Chapter twice so you could give Rites of War to the Deathwing Ancient for example. Berzul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5676276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzul Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 But, the list already uses the second Warlord Trait on the Lieutenant. So, Rites of War is not really a possibility. Your list is a Strike Force since it is in the 1001-2000 points category. This means you can use Hero of Chapter twice so you could give Rites of War to the Deathwing Ancient for example. ... Ok, two things: 1) I am an idiot. 2) This changes everything! Hahahaha!! Thanks for the advice guys. So right now the list would be as follows: BATTALION DETACHMENT 8CP (-1 for Paragon of the Chapter, -2 for Hero of the Chapter, -1 for an Extra Relic) Company Master with Jump Pack + Thunder Hammer and Master Crafted Boltgun + Rites of Initiation + Warlord: The Imperium's Sword + Paragon: Stubborn Tenacity Lieutenant with Jump Pack + Teeth of Terra, Plasma Pistol + Hero: Calibanite Knight Librarian in Terminator Armor + Force Stave, Combi-Melta + Chief Librarian + Hero: Psychic Mastery + Smite, Mind Worm, Mind Wipe, Righteous Repugnance 5-man Tactical Squad 5-man Tactical Squad 5-man Tactical Squad 5-man Deathwing Knights Squad + Watcher in the Dark 5-man Deathwing Terminator Squad + Assault Cannon + Watcher in the Dark Deathwing Ancient + Power Fist and Storm Bolter + Extra Relic: Pennant of Remembrance 6-man Ravenwing Black Knights Squad 5-man Ravenwing Bike Squad + Astartes Chainsword + Astartes Chainsword + Astartes Chainsword + Astartes Chainsword + Astartes Chainsword 3-man Ravenwing Attack Bike Squad + Multi Melta + Multi Melta + Multi Melta Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5676349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Raziel Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Hey, Brother Berzul, you never did answer my question about having a Ravenwing HQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5676506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzul Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 Your list claims to be a Patrol, but looks more like a Battalion. Just out of curiosity, do you have any Ravenwing HQs? A Talonmaster, a bike Primaris Chaplain, or a Master on a bike? Hey, Brother Berzul, you never did answer my question about having a Ravenwing HQ. My apologies, I simply missed it. I am very sorry. As for Ravenwing Characters, I do not own any, but I DO have the bits to build a Talonmaster, and a Company Master on Bike. I just haven't, so far. Which would you say would be best to have? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5676525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 The Talonmaster is pretty tasty. However if you have lots of Plasma Talons, the Company Master may be better for preventing your bikers from cooking themselves if you need to overcharge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5676538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Raziel Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) Everyone seems to be losing their kinds over Talonmasters, so that's what I'd go with. Not hard to see what people like either. Though Karhedron does also make a good point. Maybe both? Bike Captain may not have Fly, but it does get him T5 and auto 6" advance if I'm not mistaken. Edited March 9, 2021 by Grand Master Raziel Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5676539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzul Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 Aaaaand, my city has just began to go back into full lockdowns. Tournament is cancelled, again! ... Well, at least I managed to make a good list for it, and get some awesome advice from all of you, for which I am very thankful. It was good theory crafting. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5679687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Sorry to hear Berzul. Hope you’re safe and well. Berzul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5682895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzul Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 Locked down, but safe and sound ;D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/367810-1750-tri-wing-for-a-new-years-tournament/page/2/#findComment-5683228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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