INKS Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I know that over the years and even back in third edition there was a lot of lore in the rule book of 40k about the Emperor and his basic story. But I am sure it goes back much further than that. Anyone know the first appearance of this lore and who wrote it? And perhaps who the original artists were? N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 The Horus Heresy was invented so that GW didn't have to take that big a financial risk when producing the first editions of Adeptus Titanicus and Space Marine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/#findComment-5649226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I want to go out on a limb and say that Collected Visions may have mentioned something on this subject, but I can't remember off the top of my head. You might be able to get a meaningful response by emailing some of the staff who worked at Games Workshop in that era - the Perry Brothers, Rick Priestley and so on. The examples I've listed are easily approachable, and from my own experiences perfectly happy to answer any queries you may have. INKS 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/#findComment-5649227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 The foundational lore dates back to the 1st edition of the game. At an early point during that edition, the Horus Heresy was known as the "First Inter-Legionary War" (my memory is fuzzy and I don't have time to search through my books for the reference, but I'll find it eventually). Later, other games such as Adeptus Titanicus solidified it into the event we've come to know. That was further cemented when the Realm of Darkness sourcebooks were published (Slaves to Darkness in 1989, followed shortly thereafter by Lost and the Damned). The authors and artists for Adeptus Titanicus are listed at the BGG (follow the link). For some reason, I have some recollection (perhaps incorrect) that William King also wrote some fiction in White Dwarf during the same time period. Domhnall, BLACK BLŒ FLY, Scribe and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/#findComment-5649232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 Thanks for the info. I'll look deeper into that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/#findComment-5649271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 The Horus Heresy was invented so that GW didn't have to take that big a financial risk when producing the first editions of Adeptus Titanicus and Space Marine. I think the reality is that they 'massively' expanded on the snippets and mentions about the heresy prior to that point to explain why the two sets of identical titans were fighting. Think how much less fun the setting would have been had they been as lazy as most of us and called it a 'training exercise' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/#findComment-5649288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Lightstar Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 The initial Rogue Trader book had no real mentions of the Heresy and a lot of the other background hadn't really been "nailed down" Primarchs as we know them weren't a thing then at all, The Emperor had a fair few bits a lot of which have never or very rarely been revisited such as Star Child, Sensei and the Shaman Origins The Badab Wars and the "Tyrant of Badab" got a fair few side-bars though, and that was very much a Marine vs Marine conflict Over the lifespan of the First Edition it evolved into something far more recognisable and since Second Edition there haven't been so many dramatic shifts in the overall background. Space Marine and Adeptus Titanicus first editions were where they really built out the heresy fluff to a greater extent and they appeared toward the tail end of First Edition 40k as I remember. Realm of Chaos and Slaves to Darkness had more about the Emperor and Chaos Space Marines. Rik The Yncarne 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/#findComment-5649319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to Darkness Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I know that over the years and even back in third edition there was a lot of lore in the rule book of 40k about the Emperor and his basic story. But I am sure it goes back much further than that. Anyone know the first appearance of this lore and who wrote it? And perhaps who the original artists were? Check your inbox Frater INKS 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/#findComment-5649334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1SB Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 What a great line of questioning. Worth reflecting on this New Year's Day. Also, Happy New Year, Frateri. BLACK BLŒ FLY and INKS 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/#findComment-5649574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 I appreciate all the information. I know much of it is probably outdated but I am still interested. I am more into the Lore anymore than I am actual models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/#findComment-5649611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfred_the_great Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Slaves to Darkness (published 1988) had the first section on it I can find. INKS 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/#findComment-5649810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanicus Tech-Support Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I may be remembering wrong but in one version I believe instead of teleporting onto the vengeful spirit, weren't they attacking Horus's command bunker? And thats where we got Olanius originally from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/#findComment-5659655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfred_the_great Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I may be remembering wrong but in one version I believe instead of teleporting onto the vengeful spirit, weren't they attacking Horus's command bunker? And thats where we got Olanius originally from? Yup, I think it was in Realms of Chaos. Olianus is in the 40k Compendium (IIRC). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/#findComment-5659767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Here is some of the earliest fluff in the modern form. This covers the Siege of Terra (WD circa 1993) and the Emperor's final confrontation with Horus aboard the Vengeful Spirit (circa 1991). https://members.tripod.com/orcrist_game/40k/id3.html Rik Lightstar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368349-original-horus-heresy-space-marine-lore/#findComment-5659790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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