jgascoine011 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 So after really trying to pollish a turn with the new codex without relying on mortarion I have come up with what I think is the best list you could build. HQ Daemon Prince with Wings - Twin Malific Talons - Acidic Malady - Power: The -1S/A spell - Relic: Warp Insect Hive - WLT: Arch contaminator So he has 8 S8 AP-2 D2 attack, re-rolling to hit and wound. Plaguecaster - Powers: +1 S&T, -1 to hit - WLT: Gloaming Bloat He is basically used to buff the terminators Troops 2 x 10 Poxwalkers 10 Plague Marines - 2 Blight Launchers - 3 Plasma Guns Will pretty much just drop cloud of flies on these guys every turn as required. Elites 10 Terminators - 2 Reaper Autocannons Tallyman - Relic: Tollkeeper Stands near the plague marines and terminators (if not deepstriking) giving +1 to hit to the plague marines. So that is 4 S6 AP-2 D2 shots, 3-6 S7/8 AP-3 D1/2 Shots, 8 S7 AP-2 D1 shots, and 42 S4 AP- D1 shots, all hitting on 2s with 6s getting extra hits... Blightspawn - Relic: Revolting Stench Yea charge me if you dare.... Fast Attack 2 Bloat Drones - Mowers. They are supposed protect the daemon prince while he walks up the bored and with a similar statline (12 S7 AP-2 D2 attacks) they go after similar targets. I was tempted to give them the HBL instead, My thought are that the HBL help with light anti-tanks such as venoms etc, but with the change to arch contaminator...well they are not great, doing maybe 4 wounds to a rhino...it also saves me 10 points. Heavy Support 3 PBCs - Entropy Cannons - Volley Guns Helps with anti-tank and with the huge buffs to entropy guns its really the only way to play them. However again, due to changes in core, you really need 3 for consistance. I do think that 3 should kill a rhino...finally The list comes to 2k exactly, although I am not sure if you pay 5 points per entropy cannon or 5 points total. I have calculated it out as 5 points per cannon. You could drop the prince for a Lord of Contagion (or Virulance) in which case I would give him the 6s explode pathogen, for either 12 S6 AP-1 or 6 S9 AP-3 D3 attacks, re-rolling hits/wounds, 6s explode. That would save you around 55 points, if the entropy cannons are 5 points for both of them then you would have 70 points spare, allowing the plague marines to take the sigil of 6s auto wound, and a biolgius. But im not sure if the reduction in mobility and the loss of a psychic power is worth it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368629-2k-competitve-list/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Since the dp has basic attack 6 now, twin talons almost immediately defeated by sword. "Ap-1 dmg2" is just too common in 9th and not good enough for a 150+pts HQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368629-2k-competitve-list/#findComment-5659817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgascoine011 Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 Since the dp has basic attack 6 now, twin talons almost immediately defeated by sword. "Ap-1 dmg2" is just too common in 9th and not good enough for a 150+pts HQ. Yea I agree, Would probably give the exploding 6’s pathogen and a sword Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368629-2k-competitve-list/#findComment-5660040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 You can't give pathogens to a Daemon prince with twin talons it can only ever be given as an upgrade for Plague Weapons Daemon Princes don't have any at all apart from plague spewer Iron Sage and Marshal Loss 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368629-2k-competitve-list/#findComment-5661379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasphem Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) You can't give pathogens to a Daemon prince with twin talons it can only ever be given as an upgrade for Plague Weapons Daemon Princes don't have any at all apart from plague spewer +1 to this man. The Epidemicyst Blade, I miss you so much.... :'( (edit: anyway we can't use Pathogen on Relic too.) I don't feel like the Malignant Plaguecaster is a good target for Gloaming Bloat, shouldn't goes into melee and can kill himself with perils. I would rather give the trait to the Foul Blightspawn. Edited February 4, 2021 by Blasphem Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/368629-2k-competitve-list/#findComment-5663467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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