Which old strats did we keep?

[Plague _Lord]

So because of brexit I most likely won't get my codex too soon but I'm planning to get a game or two in the next week. Now I know all of the new rules but there's one thing I can't find anywhere - which old stratagems we still have.

 

Could someone list all of the Old strats that are still in the new book, so I can just use them from my old one?

 

Thanks.

 

 

[Closet Skeleton]

They pretty much all got changed.

 

Fire Frenzy is now Fire Fever, +1 to hit and wound against a single target for Helbrutes.

 

Veterans of the Long War is now Eternal Hatred, costs 2 cp and only works for Bubonic Astartes (so no daemon engines, cultists or poxwalkers)

 

Gifts of Decay is the same old extra relic stratagem except its 1cp per relic and capped at 2 uses in 2k games and 3 in 2k+.

 

Cloud of Flies is the same except it doesn't work on poxwalkers or cultists, costs 2 cp or 4cp on termintaors.

 

Putrid Detonation is still there for auto-exploding dead vehicles but it costs 2cp on models with 10 or more wounds.

 

The only grenade stratagems is now The Blightening and completely different.

 

The old 3 cp for mortal wounds (Nurgle's Gift?) one is now Blight Bombardment and works more like the loyalist Orbital Bombardment.

 

So basically 4 stratagems give updated version of an old benefit but don't work the same way, some stratagems are direct replacements but give a completely new beneifit.

 

I never wasted money on the Psychic awakening book so don't care about how many of the new book's rules came from there.

Edited February 2, 2021 by Closet Skeleton

[Plague _Lord]

Thanks! Was acutally more interested in the new ones tbh like increasing the range of plague weapons or making bolters in plague weapons.

[jgascoine011]

You can still increase plague weapons by 6" and you can make bolter weapons plague weapons.

You can only give DR (&+1T) to spawn but can get really CP heavy

 

The old (good) ones are still in the codex but cost more CP, the newer ones are generally meah.

 

I also didnt realise that CoF could not be used on poxwalkers

[Blasphem]

Mostly I am satisfied of new codex stratagems, we may have lose some good things but in average it's OK.

The only lose I am realy sad about it The Wretched ability to summon daemons after moving AND the 4D6 summoning stratagem... My old list was entirely build around it.

Now all my Nurgle Daemons will have to wait in the box untill Chaos Daemons codex release hopping we will have good things for some Nurgle Soup.

Edited February 3, 2021 by Blasphem