Fielding Dreadwing

[Uberlord Gendo]

With the new material, I'm getting back around to looking at ways to play my DA. Who happen to wear older mks of armor. And be painted in super loyal original black, don't judge me.

How would you go about making a Dreadwing themed force with the 40k codex, as if a Dreadwing heavy successor chapter decided to make use of Ravenwing and Deathwing stuff, but in furtherance of their whole death of worlds shtick? (Or emerged from the warp after a few thousand years and decided to try the whole chapter thing.)

I'm thinking Deathwing and Black Knights are given (remember when Black Knights had rad grenades?), as are Primaris Interemp... I mean Hellblasters, but what else would you do to get that Dark Agey feel? (It's killing me that there aren't 40k destroyer squads. I'm printing some destroyer pads to use anyway.)

 

Related, does anyone have any STL for Mk3 Dreadwing Pauldrons? Closest I've got are Mk6 Death Spectres.

Edited February 5, 2021 by Uberlord Gendo

[Karhedron]

Dark Talons with rift cannons and stasis bombs have an appropriate sort of feel.

[Fierce Bear]

Eradicators seem like an obvious choice, and Devastators in Drop Pods too...

 

I like to run 5-man Tactical squads with a special weapon and a combi weapon on the Sergeant, pop two of those in a drop pod and shout suprise!

 

Inceptors and even Suppressors can fit the 'extermination' Dreadwing asthetic I think?

 

Vindicator's might deserve a look and Dreadnoughts of all flavours?

 

This is giving me ideas for a Greenwing list!!!

[Brother Ramael]

Aggressors give the right vibes imho.

[Fierce Bear]

Dammit yes what brother Ramael said... I guess we ought to add Heavy Intercessors to that mix as well!

[WrathOfTheLion]

Reivers and inceptors. Dreadwing in AoD uses Destroyer squads as troops, so things that are close to that work I think.

 

Librarians were also big into the Dreadwing, so they would do well.

[UtariOnzo]

Hellblasters too!

[aura_enchanted]

land raiders were like a staple of the dreadwing, along with things like the sicarian venator and sicarian arcus

 

the deredeo dreadnaught, or other dreadnaughts would be amongst their number. the deredeo is the fluffy choice, it was the testbed for a number of weapons and this just fits

 

the dreadwing were our heavy assault formation, heavy weapons and heavy armor. id tell u to go out and get a land raider excelsior but im not sure howd others feel about that, maybe a damocles command rhino instead i recognize nobody has the like 400 dollars to pay an ebay scalper jsut lying around at the present time, or the capacity to just visit warhammer world themselves

 

rapier batteries would be an interesting choice, same with firestrike servo turrets, inceptors, company veterans of various forms and assault marines

 

lots of applicable units

[Malakye]

I actually based my Crusade force on a Dreadwing motif myself, went with the Heresy Dark Angels colour scheme of Black and Red as well. I used alot of heresy helmets and such as well.

[WARMASTER_]

Awesome idea man! Personally I’d go for...

 

Company Vets with all plasma guns (Interemptors)

Hellblasters

Plasma Redemptor Dreads

Plasma Venerable Dreads

Eradicators

Heavy Intercessors

Aggressors

Librarians

Edited February 7, 2021 by BladeOfVengeance

[Gederas]

With the new material, I'm getting back around to looking at ways to play my DA. Who happen to wear older mks of armor. And be painted in super loyal original black, don't judge me.

I actually based my Crusade force on a Dreadwing motif myself, went with the Heresy Dark Angels colour scheme of Black and Red as well. I used alot of heresy helmets and such as well.

My brothas!

 

Now, in regards to the Dreadwing.....

The Dreadwing was the name given to one of the six specialised "wing" formations of the Dark Angels Space Marine Legion that existed during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy eras.

 

The Dreadwing was specialised in the use of tactics to defeat the worse foes faced by the Ist Legion on the battlefield and was deployed when there seemed to be no other way to destroy an enemy.

 

The speciality of the Dreadwing was total warfare using the most sinister of weapons. The elected Voted-Lieutenant, bearing the title of "Dreadbringer," commanded Destroyer Squads supported by other types of units to bring total annihilation of a foe on a specific battlefield.

 

The Dreadwing unleashed mass armoured assaults that made use of Land Raiders, Spartan Assault Tanks, Mastodons and Fellglaive super-heavy tanks. These vehicles and the Dreadwing Destroyer Squads were often outfitted with the Imperium's infamous advanced weapons of mass destruction, including Phosphex Weapons, Radium Weapons and Vortex Weapons.

 

The most feared branch of the Hexagrammaton, the Dreadwing was called in when the total annihilation of the enemy was necessary. Its members were masters of massacres, purges, and the deployment of Exterminatus-class weaponry. They also specialized in using terror as a weapon. Far from dumb brutes, it fell to the initiates of the Dreadwing the caretaking and maintenance of some of the most dangerous technologies to exist within the Imperium, they were the First Legion's "dirty tricks department", with all sorts of secret and very nasty gear that they really shouldn't have - really shocking stuff, like radioactive plasma weapons, vortex artillery, and phosphex flamethrowers. Seeing as how the First Legion was the first Space Marine Legion, and had fought in the Terran Unification wars, they likely had far more access to all the horrifically destructive weaponry that is now kept under lock and key deep within the Imperial Palace.

 

The Dreadwing was an amalgamation of the earlier Host of Bone, maintaining many of its Scandinavian ceremonies and titles despite the influx of recruits from Caliban, along with the Host of Stone, renowned for their expertise in defense and siege warfare.

 

Its members were known to be grim but capable of safely operating some of the most dangerous technologies in the Imperium. Its ranks included most of the Legion's Destroyer Squads and Interemptors but also a large number of Techmarines and Apothecaries. In its sealed vaults rested the least stable Legion Dreadnoughts, those whose minds had eroded to the point of savageness.

 

When despair and loss forced the ideals of the Great Crusade to be rejected, the Dreadwing became the host for those warriors who were allowed to use their psychic powers by the primarch.

 

 

 

 

One of the Dark Angels Legion's six "wings", the Dreadwing detachment existed for a single, focused purpose: extermination.

 

The formation was deployed only when it was deemed necessary to carry out the complete and total annihilation of a target. These specialists employed forgotten technologies, superheavy armor, weapons of mass destruction and worse to wipe designated areas from the face of the galaxy. "Scorched earth" would only begin to describe the utter devastation left in the passing of the Dreadwing. They were prepared to use napalm, nerve gas, nuclear fire, phosphex and anything else that could be found in the darker depths of the Legion armories. Nothing less than the complete destruction of the enemy and everything around him would be deemed satisfactory in after-action reports.

 

During the Horus Heresy, primarch Lion El'Jonson deployed his Dreadwing on Macragge to quell rebellions, as well as the rampage of Konrad Curze, on the planet. The Dark Angels' operations resulted in untold devastation and collateral damage, and primarch Guilliman of the Ultramarines was horrified at the sheer brutality of the Angels of Death unleashed.

 

When the Dreadwing marched to war, their doomed foes were treated to a chilling, never-ending battle chant: WE HAVE COME, WE ARE DEATH.

 

 

Echoing what others said, yes. Hellblasters (pseudo-Interemptors) and Aggressors/Reivers (pseudo-Destroyers) are a definite bet. Same with Aggressors, Eradicators and Heavy Intercessors. Librarians and Techmarines for HQs if not the normal Captains/Lieutenants.

 

Because the Dreadwing is a "Heavy Assault" force, you can also quite easily get away with using Terminators.

 

TL;DR: Build a "I don't want to have friends anymore" Dark Angels list to make a Dreadwing list

Edited February 8, 2021 by Gederas

[Brother Ramael]

Didn't the FW dreads ( the relic contemptor in fact) have rules for using Culverins?

 

land raiders were like a staple of the dreadwing, along with things like the sicarian venator and sicarian arcus

 

the deredeo dreadnaught, or other dreadnaughts would be amongst their number. the deredeo is the fluffy choice, it was the testbed for a number of weapons and this just fits

 

the dreadwing were our heavy assault formation, heavy weapons and heavy armor. id tell u to go out and get a land raider excelsior but im not sure howd others feel about that, maybe a damocles command rhino instead i recognize nobody has the like 400 dollars to pay an ebay scalper jsut lying around at the present time, or the capacity to just visit warhammer world themselves

 

rapier batteries would be an interesting choice, same with firestrike servo turrets, inceptors, company veterans of various forms and assault marines

 

lots of applicable units

I agree with the FW dreads in general, they all field "old lore" weapons, from Volkite Culverins to Grav-Flux Bombards. They are guarded in a wallet shaped vault though...

[Skywrath]

Land Speeder Vengeance could be a good choice for Dreadwing - has the exoteric rare destructive weapon vibe. But +1 to those that suggested Inceptors.

[Uberlord Gendo]

These are all a lot of fun ideas. The problem I'm having, tbh, is making a coherent list that fits the cool stuff I'd like.

 

I think the first decision is to decide how I'm going to hold objectives (and I think this applies to all DA)

I can see this one either way and it comes down to how much I want in that deep strike assault- I'm thinking one or two Dreadwing'd up squads (so probably wearing Cataphractii) and a Deathwing Knights squad, potentially with an apothecary if I'm feeling sadistic.

Midfield objectives fall to Intercessors, potentially of the heavy variety with support from Interemptors and something desrtoyer-ish like Eradicators.

I'm thinking a Librarian and a squad of Reivers give me two ways to shut down the opponent's obsec for a turn and if I throw in a thunderfire cannon (which feels right), I should have a reasonable amount of control.

The thing is, I can also see going with a more army-line based list with a Grand Marshall of the Eskaton leading a nasty greenwing force in an almost Death Guardy kind of way. (I'm glossing over the mechanized option because there's no way I've got points for that, unfortunately.)