502Somm Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I'm brand new to Warhammer, but recently jumped in the deep end and have bought about 3000 points worth of models. As I'm building and painting I'm also theorycrafting a list so I know what to focus on first (and what extra bits to buy if needed). I've decided to build Deathwatch, and am leaning towards an all infantry list, no Dreads, Armor, or Flyers. From what I've gathered that seems to be the strength of the Deathwatch, their unique infantry options and ability to give OBSEC to models that don't normally have it, and create squads of 5 for models than can usually only be in groups of 3. There are a few local shops I'll be gaming at, but the primary one is currently hosting a competition with the following armies being fielded, 2x Grey Knights Blood Angels Space Wolves Imperial Guard Ad Mech 1000 Sons Death Guard Necrons Orks I don't know if that is helpful in giving a rough idea of the meta or not, hopefully it is. My rough gameplan is as follows, Outriders and Chaplain ride around charging into enemy units, using Beacon to bring in less mobile troops as well. Outriders also grab objectives when possible. Spectrus KT hangs around my deployment area to prevent Deep Strikes and can harass enemies at range. Librarian will deploy midfield and support forward attackers. Intercessors or some DW Vets can group around him to provide cover. Proteus KTs combat squad, Vanguard Vets jump around onto objectives and can harass armor if needed with their Thunder Hammers. DW Vets will take and sit on midfield objectives. Heavy Intercessors will backup who needs it, and Eradicators will focus on AT and other heavy targets. Watch Master, Apothecary, and Champion float and go where needed, Chaplain can ride out and Beacon them in if necessary. My only concern is lack of mobility for my characters. Is the Librarian using Concealed Positions to deploy out and the Beacon Angelis enough to get those buffs out where they need to be? Also, am I missing anything else? Some glaring hole in my strategy or easily exploited weakness to my list? ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Deathwatch) [116 PL, 9CP, 1,999pts] ++ + Configuration + Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost Gametype: Matched + Stratagems + Relics of the Chapter [-1CP]: Number of Extra Relics + HQ + Librarian in Phobos Armour [5 PL, 100pts]: 1. Premorphic Resonance, 2. Fortified With Contempt Primaris Chaplain on Bike [6 PL, 115pts]: 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Litany of Hate, The Beacon Angelis Watch Master [7 PL, -1CP, 130pts]: Stratagem: A Vigil Unmatched, Warlord . 2. Paragon of their Chapter: Ultramarines: Adept of the Codex . 6. The Ties That Bind (Aura) + Troops + Fortis Kill Team [16 PL, 350pts] . Intercessor Sergeant: Astartes Chainsword, Stalker Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor w/ Stalker Bolt Rifle: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Stalker Bolt Rifle . 5x Outrider: 5x Astartes Chainsword, 5x Frag & Krak grenades, 5x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 5x Twin Bolt rifle Indomitor Kill Team [23 PL, 385pts] . 3x Eradicator w/ Melta Rifle: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Melta rifle . Eradicator w/ Multi-melta: Multi-melta . Heavy Intercessor Sergeant: Heavy Bolt Rifle . 4x Heavy Intercessor w/ Heavy Bolt RIfle: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Rifle . Inceptor w/ Plasma Exterminators: 2x Plasma Exterminators Proteus Kill Team [18 PL, 265pts]: Jump Packs . Deathwatch Veteran . . Deathwatch Boltgun and Power Sword: Power sword . Deathwatch Veteran . . Deathwatch Boltgun and Power Sword: Power sword . Deathwatch Veteran: Deathwatch Boltgun, Storm shield . Deathwatch Veteran: Deathwatch Boltgun, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Vanguard Veteran: Bolt Pistol & Astartes Chainsword . Watch Sergeant: Combat shield . . Deathwatch Boltgun and Power Sword: Power sword Proteus Kill Team [18 PL, 265pts]: Jump Packs . Deathwatch Veteran . . Deathwatch Boltgun and Power Sword: Power sword . Deathwatch Veteran . . Deathwatch Boltgun and Power Sword: Power sword . Deathwatch Veteran: Deathwatch Boltgun, Storm shield . Deathwatch Veteran: Deathwatch Boltgun, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Vanguard Veteran: Bolt Pistol & Astartes Chainsword . Watch Sergeant: Combat shield . . Deathwatch Boltgun and Power Sword: Power sword Spectrus Kill Team [15 PL, 244pts] . 3x Eliminator w/ Bolt Sniper: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Bolt sniper rifle, 3x Camo cloak, 3x Frag & Krak grenades . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Helix Adept . Infiltrator Sergeant + Elites + Apothecary [5 PL, -1CP, 90pts]: Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary, Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter Company Champion [3 PL, 55pts]: Dominus Aegis ++ Total: [116 PL, 9CP, 1,999pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369075-first-army-list-deathwatch-2000-points/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
aura_enchanted Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 the thousand son and the grey knight basically make the librarian a dead unit, they are basically an army of nothing but casters, they will shutdown every spell you hope to cast, I'd swap him out for a more general approach Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369075-first-army-list-deathwatch-2000-points/#findComment-5667921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 the thousand son and the grey knight basically make the librarian a dead unit, they are basically an army of nothing but casters, they will shutdown every spell you hope to cast, I'd swap him out for a more general approach It's funny, the libbie was strong for some time and they eventually get a model I like for it (the phobos version) and now I read this. Is he ever useful now? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369075-first-army-list-deathwatch-2000-points/#findComment-5667942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
502Somm Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 the thousand son and the grey knight basically make the librarian a dead unit, they are basically an army of nothing but casters, they will shutdown every spell you hope to cast, I'd swap him out for a more general approach Won't I want him to shut down some of their key spells? Skywrath 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369075-first-army-list-deathwatch-2000-points/#findComment-5668093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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