Berzul Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 So, heavy intercessors are getting a release with the new kill team set. Should these guys be DW or GW, or should they go in either place of the army as a whole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 They should go in the battle line squads of the 3 - 5th companies, or in the 6th or 7th reserve companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Is there any new fluff that says the Gravis suits are reserved to the Deathwing? If so, then they would necessarily only be part of the Deathwing. Conversely, wasn't there fluff already written that at least one Gravis armored Marine is a member of the Deathwing (an Aggressor)? So it seems that if there is fluff that would support their inclusion in the Deathwing, then they could be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberlord Gendo Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) The correct answer is Stormwing, Dreadwing, and maybe Deathwing. Buuut if you're one of those "I let the Deathwing take over my legion" types like Azrael, then because they're a variant on tac squads, they are in the line and reserve companies and thus not cool enough to be trusted in the 1st like Wrath said. If we get a 1st company Gravis vet unit, they'll probably get the Deathwing keyword like the Bladeguard did. Aggressors didn't because they're not given to veterans the way terminator plate is and I guess veteran intercession are like company vets. Edited February 18, 2021 by Uberlord Gendo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) Is there any new fluff that says the Gravis suits are reserved to the Deathwing? If so, then they would necessarily only be part of the Deathwing. Conversely, wasn't there fluff already written that at least one Gravis armored Marine is a member of the Deathwing (an Aggressor)? So it seems that if there is fluff that would support their inclusion in the Deathwing, then they could be there. There are no Gravis in the Deathwing at this time that I know of in fluff, and definitely not in rules. The only Primaris units in the Deathwing are the Bladeguard Veterans, the Bladeguard Ancient, Bladeguard Lieutenants, Repulsors and Redemptor Dreadnoughts. So all Gravis should go in the standard battle and reserve companies. The specific fluff you might be thinking of is White Dwarf from September 2019, which made no direct mention of the armament of the Primaris brother that was inducted into the Deathwing. The only things spoken about was that they deployed using Repulsors as their transport. I would think that this vague statement about armament reasonably can be concluded to be talking about the Bladeguard. Edited February 18, 2021 by WrathOfTheLion WARMASTER_ and Bryan Blaire 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I would say not DW because it's still a very exclusive club. Skywrath, WrathOfTheLion and Gederas 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael9091 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Heavy intercessors are just normal intercessors that donned gravis amor for that battle, nothing more so they can basically be affected to any kind of company, that being said It's not impossible that 6th and 7th company have within their ranks specialized heavy intercessors squad WrathOfTheLion, Brother Ramael and Gederas 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ramael Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 They're marked Battle Line I think, so they have the same spot as tacs and intercessors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValourousHeart Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 They should go into your GW crusade army. Then in time be inducted them into Deathwing for their faithful service to the chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burias-Drak'shal Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I'm kind of thinking of them as primaris devastators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 They don't really have an equivalent in the Firstborn range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARMASTER_ Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) They don't really have an equivalent in the Firstborn range.They do if you equate them more to 30k, terminator armour in that era wasn’t exclusively veteran and more used for Zone Mortalis or heavy shock/line breaker engagements, Heavy intercessors are pretty much the 40K equivalent For me where they currently belong in battle companies makes a lot of sense tactically, gives the other companies a heavy line breaker option without having to use the DW Edited February 21, 2021 by BladeOfVengeance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I see Mk III armor as the better analog. It's MK II with plates added on, especially for boarding operations. It doesn't have representation in rules, but I think it matches somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARMASTER_ Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 It definitely matches,Mark III was specifically made for zone mortalis... either way it definitely has first born equivalents if you compare it to 30k rather than 40K which I feel is the Primaris lines focus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raychu Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 they should go in a Gravis company. say the 5th for me. A master in gravis armour heavy intercessor as troops / battle line Inceptors for fast attacks Eradicators for support agressors for elites. in the primaris range, you could have normal primaris company, a phobos one and a gravis one. the only thing missing now is the gravis lieutenant. next codex update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Primaris DW are Bladeguard Vets, nothing stopping you from putting Aggressors and such in DW colours, but the official lore is that they’re Green Wing. Also doing so you won’t get any rules benefits from having bone coloured Gravis marines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) they should go in a Gravis company. say the 5th for me. A master in gravis armour heavy intercessor as troops / battle line Inceptors for fast attacks Eradicators for support agressors for elites. in the primaris range, you could have normal primaris company, a phobos one and a gravis one. the only thing missing now is the gravis lieutenant. next codex update! 5th Company is Lazarus' company, and he's got an official model not in Gravis. Did you mean 4th or 3rd? Also: Aggressors are Fire Support as well (check the Battlefield Role icon on the shoulders, not the in-Codex role) Edited February 26, 2021 by Gederas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ramael Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 they should go in a Gravis company. say the 5th for me. A master in gravis armour heavy intercessor as troops / battle line Inceptors for fast attacks Eradicators for support agressors for elites. in the primaris range, you could have normal primaris company, a phobos one and a gravis one. the only thing missing now is the gravis lieutenant. next codex update! Allright I missed a memo I think, we've got a gravis company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) No. You can make one if it floats your boat, but there is no such thing in our chapter organization or that of the Codex Astartes. Edited February 26, 2021 by WrathOfTheLion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raychu Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 they should go in a Gravis company. say the 5th for me. A master in gravis armour heavy intercessor as troops / battle line Inceptors for fast attacks Eradicators for support agressors for elites. in the primaris range, you could have normal primaris company, a phobos one and a gravis one. the only thing missing now is the gravis lieutenant. next codex update! 5th Company is Lazarus' company, and he's got an official model not in Gravis. Did you mean 4th or 3rd? :lol: Also: Aggressors are Fire Support as well (check the Battlefield Role icon on the shoulders, not the in-Codex role) I forget about Lazarus. I have to say i don't really like anything about him. His mini, his background. So yes the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 they should go in a Gravis company. say the 5th for me. A master in gravis armour heavy intercessor as troops / battle line Inceptors for fast attacks Eradicators for support agressors for elites. in the primaris range, you could have normal primaris company, a phobos one and a gravis one. the only thing missing now is the gravis lieutenant. next codex update! 5th Company is Lazarus' company, and he's got an official model not in Gravis. Did you mean 4th or 3rd? Also: Aggressors are Fire Support as well (check the Battlefield Role icon on the shoulders, not the in-Codex role) I forget about Lazarus. I have to say i don't really like anything about him. His mini, his background. So yes the 4th. I don't mind him, but my only complaint is that GW killed off poor Company Master Balthazar in a footnote :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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