Deathwing+Greenwing 2000pts

[Brother Ramael]

With the news about the Heavy Intercessors coming about, I tried my hand with Battlescribe (that thing has more bugs than a nurgling) and came up with this:

 

+++ New RosterDark Angels (Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition) [92 PL, 8CP, 2,000pts] +++

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Dark Angels) [49 PL, -4CP, 1,080pts] ++

+ Configuration [-2CP] +

**Chapter Selection**: Dark Angels
. Categories: Configuration

Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]
. Categories: Configuration

+ HQ [8 PL, -1CP, 160pts] +

Lieutenant(s) [8 PL, -1CP, 160pts]
. Categories: HQ, Faction: Dark Angels
. Ravenwing Talonmaster [8 PL, -1CP, 160pts]: Brilliant Strategist, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter [-1CP]
. . Categories: Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Faction: Dark Angels, Faction: Imperium, Character, Land Speeder, Fly, Vehicle, Talonmaster, Inner Circle, Lieutenant, Ravenwing
. . Corvus Oculus

+ Troops [22 PL, 475pts] +

Assault Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts]
. Categories: Faction: Imperium, Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Primaris, Infantry, Assault Intercessor Squad, Core, Intercessors, Faction: Dark Angels, Troops
. 4x Assault Intercessor [76pts]: 4x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol
. Assault Intercessor Sgt [39pts]: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Thunder hammer [20pts]

Heavy Intercessor Squad [7 PL, 140pts]: Heavy bolt rifle
. Categories: Infantry, Core, Primaris, Intercessors, Mk X Gravis, Heavy Intercessor Squad, Faction: Imperium, Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Troops, Faction: Dark Angels
. 4x Heavy Intercessor [112pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades
. Heavy Intercessor Sergeant [28pts]

Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 220pts]: 2x Astartes Grenade Launcher [10pts], Auto Bolt Rifle
. Categories: Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Faction: Imperium, Infantry, Intercessor Squad, Primaris, Core, Intercessors, Troops, Faction: Dark Angels
. 9x Intercessor [180pts]: 9x Bolt pistol, 9x Frag & Krak grenades
. Intercessor Sergeant [30pts]: Power fist [10pts]

+ Elites [6 PL, -1CP, 115pts] +

Ravenwing Apothecary [6 PL, -1CP, 115pts]: Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary [1 PL, 15pts], Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter [-1CP]
. Categories: Character, Infantry, Faction: Dark Angels, Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Biker, Faction: Imperium, Apothecary, Inner Circle, Ravenwing, Elites, Chief Apothecary
. Black Knight Bike: Plasma Talon

+ Fast Attack [13 PL, 330pts] +

Attack Bike Squad [6 PL, 165pts]
. Categories: Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Attack Bike Squad, Biker, Faction: Imperium, Core, Fast Attack, Faction: Dark Angels, Ravenwing
. Attack Bike [2 PL, 55pts]: Multi-melta [10pts]
. Attack Bike [2 PL, 55pts]: Multi-melta [10pts]
. Attack Bike [2 PL, 55pts]: Multi-melta [10pts]

Inceptor Squad [7 PL, 165pts]: 2x Inceptor [90pts], Inceptor Sergeant [45pts], Plasma Exterminator x2 [30pts]
. Categories: Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Fly, Faction: Imperium, Inceptor Squad, Infantry, Jump Pack, Mk X Gravis, Primaris, Core, Fast Attack, Faction: Dark Angels

++ Vanguard Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Dark Angels) [43 PL, 12CP, 920pts] ++

+ Configuration [12CP] +

**Chapter Selection**: Dark Angels
. Categories: Configuration

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) [12CP]
. Categories: Configuration

+ HQ [14 PL, 265pts] +

Belial [7 PL, 140pts]: Brilliant Strategist, Warlord
. Categories: Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Belial, Character, Faction: Dark Angels, HQ, Infantry, Grand Master, Terminator, Faction: Imperium, Captain, Deathwing, Warlord
. Sword of Silence & Storm Bolter

Ezekiel [7 PL, 125pts]
. Categories: HQ, Ezekiel, Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Faction: Dark Angels, Faction: Deathwing, Faction: Imperium, Librarian, Psyker, Inner Circle, Chief Librarian, Infantry

+ Elites [29 PL, 655pts] +

Deathwing Knights [11 PL, 235pts]: Knight Master [47pts]
. Categories: Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Elites, Faction: Dark Angels, Infantry, Deathwing Knights, Faction: Imperium, Terminator, Inner Circle, Deathwing
. 4x Deathwing Knight [188pts]: 4x Mace of Absolution, 4x Storm shield

Deathwing Terminator Squad [9 PL, 215pts]: Watcher in the Dark [5pts]
. Categories: Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Elites, Faction: Dark Angels, Infantry, Terminator, Faction: Imperium, Inner Circle, Deathwing, Core
. Deathwing Sergeant [33pts]
. . Storm Bolter & Power Sword
. Deathwing Terminator [63pts]
. . Cyclone Missile Launcher, Storm Bolter, Chainfist [30pts]: Chainfist [5pts], Cyclone missile launcher [25pts]
. Deathwing Terminator [38pts]
. . Storm Bolter & Power Fist [5pts]: Power fist [5pts]
. Deathwing Terminator [38pts]
. . Storm Bolter & Power Fist [5pts]: Power fist [5pts]
. Deathwing Terminator [38pts]
. . Storm Bolter & Power Fist [5pts]: Power fist [5pts]

Deathwing Terminator Squad [9 PL, 205pts]: Watcher in the Dark [5pts]
. Categories: Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Elites, Faction: Dark Angels, Infantry, Terminator, Faction: Imperium, Inner Circle, Deathwing, Core
. Deathwing Sergeant [43pts]
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield [10pts]: Thunder hammer [10pts]
. Deathwing Terminator [48pts]
. . Assault cannon, Chainfist [15pts]: Assault cannon [10pts], Chainfist [5pts]
. Deathwing Terminator [33pts]: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Deathwing Terminator [33pts]: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Deathwing Terminator [43pts]
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield [10pts]: Thunder hammer [10pts]

 

I suspect I should switch out some troops for some infiltrators, but what else?

 

Edit - to muse a bit on all this:

 

-I've got an early bite and backyard vandalism with the TalonMaster+3xAttab Bike Meltas, with the Talonmaster that can keep the bikes in dev doctrine for a long time while using them as body shield.

-I have 4 obsec choices in the patrol detachement ( the intercessors can and will split most of the time), with the 10 autobolt and the 5 assualt intercessors geared for pressuring midfield, true to the counterpunch game the DA play well; on top of that the Heavy Intercessors can switch with a termie squad on Stubborn Defiance duty, depending on who I am against.

-RW apotecary because it's that good.

-Deathwing detachment with 10 obsec termies and a DWK squad for general mayem, plus 3 watchers to make psykers miserable.

-Master Bel and Zeke, with a good melee "chapter Master" and a great psyker that can hold his own up close.

 

I could as well switch one DW squad for a standard termie, losing a watcher for the teleport homer for redeployment shenaningans.

Another option could be to switch Brilliant Strategist on the Talonmaster for Rites of War, giving the bikes obsec as well but that means leaning more toward a static play

Edited March 13, 2021 by Brother Ramael

[Grand Master Raziel]

My primary thought is to ask what Heavy Intercessors are going to do that you couldn't do with another 5-man Terminator Squad. I wouldn't ordinarily suggest tying down a Terminator Squad to mind a backfield objective, but for 45 more points you could have one and that 45 points buys you never being wounded on better than a 4+, a better armor save, an inherent invulnerable save, and a much tougher proposition to face in close combat. 

Where I'm going with this is you could potentially drop the other Troops choices, and instead of the Patrol detachment field a Ravenwing Outrider detachment. Pitch in a couple of 5-man Ravenwing Bike Squads for early harassment and/or stealing primary objectives coupled with Ezekial turning off opposing units' obsec. Maybe throw in a Ravenwing Knights unit to replace the Inceptors.

 

I think Heavy Intercessors are a stronger choice if one is going all-Primaris, and probably compare better in other Space Marine armies that can't get Obsec perma-Transhuman Terminators. For us...ehh. If you want to make an all-Primaris list or an all-Greenwing list, sure. If you have the DW Vanguard anyway, might as well lean into it.

[Vulshra]

My primary thought is to ask what Heavy Intercessors are going to do that you couldn't do with another 5-man Terminator Squad. I wouldn't ordinarily suggest tying down a Terminator Squad to mind a backfield objective, but for 45 more points you could have one and that 45 points buys you never being wounded on better than a 4+, a better armor save, an inherent invulnerable save, and a much tougher proposition to face in close combat.

 

Where I'm going with this is you could potentially drop the other Troops choices, and instead of the Patrol detachment field a Ravenwing Outrider detachment. Pitch in a couple of 5-man Ravenwing Bike Squads for early harassment and/or stealing primary objectives coupled with Ezekial turning off opposing units' obsec. Maybe throw in a Ravenwing Knights unit to replace the Inceptors.

 

I think Heavy Intercessors are a stronger choice if one is going all-Primaris, and probably compare better in other Space Marine armies that can't get Obsec perma-Transhuman Terminators. For us...ehh. If you want to make an all-Primaris list or an all-Greenwing list, sure. If you have the DW Vanguard anyway, might as well lean into it.

Totally agree, not to mention in the right context dwts can basically be a devastator squad (combat squads a 10 man, leaving 2 cmls backfield) with obsec and permanent transhuman