Brother Kraskor Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Time to assemble a jump pack Command squad with power fists...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper.McGuirl Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 It really is perfect that right now, all the Emperor’s Children players are saying “This is so awesome that now I can fist people before they can do anything about it.” LameBeard, MegaVolt87, spessmarine and 15 others 18 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 I see myself wanting to take some more Great Frost Blades if they're the same as currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 So if I'm reading this right, that means EC's hit with unwieldy weapons at I2 on the charge, since the initiative improvement happens after modifiers. That's a substantial buff! Looking back over the Phase 1 Playtest doc, this rules only change is that it takes effect even if the unit has made a disordered charge where previously it would get turned off. Wrong: they also added the provision "after any Initiative modifiers from other special rules have been taken into account", as well as the provision that the defensive weapon bonus only occurs as part of a reaction. Absolutely massive changes for EC. Their trait working even if the charge was disordered is good and puts them in line with other Legions, e.g. BA/WE. But being able to hit with power fists before others is simply colossal. Really excited to put this to use! edit: the power fist changes really make me want to create a Terminator unit inspired by this art... Ah! Skill unmatched had a baked in qualifier to let the +1 I stack, and I totally blanked when I read the updated version this morning. Really good stuff, really gives them the edge in the terminator-off that I continuously say 2nd is going to turn into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper.McGuirl Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 One thing that may slow that down is if the final book ends up with terminators costing 250pts, like they did in the preview copies of the rules they had at the open day last weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 One thing that may slow that down is if the final book ends up with terminators costing 250pts, like they did in the preview copies of the rules they had at the open day last weekend. They're 175 right now base; even going to 250 base would make them worth it with the double wounds, improved cataphractii, and neutered counters. They're currently at 150 base in phase 3, so we'll see how it shakes out in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) Quick question on the topic of terminators. Are power weapons still the base weapon or do you think power fist will be standard like the plastic kits? I see the forge world Tartaros power axe set no longer available. Sad face. Edited May 11, 2022 by LameBeard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 I postulate they may rebox the terminators with an extra weapon sprue with the base loadout, but that's conjecture. They may also just sell the terminator weapons as an upgrade. LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Quick question on the topic of terminators. Are power weapons still the base weapon or do you think power fist will be standard like the plastic kits? I see the forge world Tartaros power axe set no longer available. Sad face. In phase 3 it's 150 base for power weapon+combi bolter. Fists are an upgrade. And the axes are still available in Canada. LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) They're still available in the US as well. Would love to see some plastic upgrade sprues for Tartaros/Cataphractii though, that would be a good move. Makes me wish they'd just do that for Chaos Terminators in 40k instead of waffling around with its minuscule options. Edited May 12, 2022 by WrathOfTheLion LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spessmarine Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 They're still available in the US as well. Would love to see some plastic upgrade sprues for Tartaros/Cataphractii though, that would be a good move. Makes me wish they'd just do that for Chaos Terminators in 40k instead of waffling around with its minuscule options. I literally just wanted to ask that, whether terminator upgrades would come too. After the special weapon sprue set that lets you cover tacticals/devastators/veterans/heavysupport/etc something for the terminators seems like it would be nice LameBeard and WrathOfTheLion 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Iron Warriors today. Actually really impressed with how good this particular example looks. Marshal Mittens, darkhorse0607, BitsHammer and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 There’s something about the Mk6 and Iron Warriors; I think I need to see a heavily weathered version or a darker tone. It looks too much like a “We’re ready to crusade!” or fresh or something I can’t quite put my finger on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 I'm on the opposite side today; it's not bad, but it's not in the realm of "really simple and clean" like the EC or the DA. The hazard stripes are the culprit for a couple of reasons. The surface area they cover is very big, and they're now kind of overwhelming the composition. Theres not a lot of good spots to but them on the new mk6, as both the the shoulders and legs are pretty large, and the chest is covered in cabling. The second issue is that they're just...not painted the best. There's this phenomenon where straight lines on curved surfaces get this tapering towards the back, which is pretty much exclusive to fast attempts that don't get straightened out properly. Again, not too many places on mk6, as there's a lot of large, rounded areas. But, the bolter casing is an area that's both small and flat and would have worked well on part of it. Or the corner of the right shoulder. But this is just me being particular to hazard stripes on iron warriors. Daimyo-Phaeron Lenoch 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 I'm on the opposite side today; it's not bad, but it's not in the realm of "really simple and clean" like the EC or the DA. The hazard stripes are the culprit for a couple of reasons. The surface area they cover is very big, and they're now kind of overwhelming the composition. Theres not a lot of good spots to but them on the new mk6, as both the the shoulders and legs are pretty large, and the chest is covered in cabling. The second issue is that they're just...not painted the best. There's this phenomenon where straight lines on curved surfaces get this tapering towards the back, which is pretty much exclusive to fast attempts that don't get straightened out properly. Again, not too many places on mk6, as there's a lot of large, rounded areas. But, the bolter casing is an area that's both small and flat and would have worked well on part of it. Or the corner of the right shoulder. But this is just me being particular to hazard stripes on iron warriors. I get what you mean - I think it would have helped massively if the stripes has been weathered more than just the silver chipping Wasn't a fan of the rust weathering, i guess thats just my brain thinking marine armour shouldn't rust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Again, not too many places on mk6, as there's a lot of large, rounded areas. But, the bolter casing is an area that's both small and flat and would have worked well on part of it. Or the corner of the right shoulder. Yeah, I like putting my hazard stripes on the weapon casings and right shoulder pad, because I like to think they're a pragmatic choice for heresy era iron warriors - the right shoulder pad is the element your allies are most likely to see without your enemy seeing it (reducing friendly fire) and it's easier to find your weapons again if you dropped them in mud and gore. Always having the same sort of surfaces also reduces the number of errors you'll make BitsHammer, Shovellovin and Cyrox 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) @cyrox Im not opposed to rust, and funnily enough I used the exact same colour to represent dirt accumulation on mine. But, I think that a gold on the studs would have been a better accent colour, as it's a traditionally used for trim. Rust streaks is just another area that's slightly advanced to get the "correct" pooling and streak. Better to swap it out for something else simple and easy to execute correctly. Edited May 12, 2022 by SkimaskMohawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Yup, hazard stripes are best used on bolters mostly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 I have to say I'm enjoying these articles. I like the tongue in cheek WHC style (although I do hope the HH remains "serious", well as serious as it can be based on the lore) and I have a (varying) fondness for most of the Legions. Although obviously I'm looking most forward to the Sixth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Looks like shrapnel weapons lost shred, and the cannon gained an extra shot. Wholly unsurprising honestly, the potential to drown units in quantity shots was pretty high for a free upgrade. dicebod 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 There's our Sicaran, nice https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/12/heresy-thursday-the-plastic-sicaran-speeds-into-action/ Loquille 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phractal Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Beautiful. Glorious. Long awaited. Now I need two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Yup, hazard stripes are best used on bolters mostly I found that painting half a shoulder pad with hazards works pretty well. The other half black, with a squad marking. Also Wooo, liking the plastic Sicaran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Beautiful. Glorious. Long awaited. Now I need two... Like two total or two to start with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 So it is +1S against all thingy things in shooting and in cc. Pretty boring but powerful LA for my IW. And against infantry we dish out pinning. Seems solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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