Corswain Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Pretty boring but powerful New Legion warcry?!? ;) Pretty much what you would expect for the IVth. I don't like the beakies for my Iron Warriors (anything but "Iron Armour" is sacrilege) but I am really excited to use Heresy 2.0 to expand, starting with that Spartan. And for me, the correct location for hazard-stripes is everywhere. Weathering does help with the wobbly illusion on big curved panels though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 The more I see Bekie armour the less I like it. Those flared pants are not my thing. "Pretty much what you would expect for the IVth." Well, I expected them to ignore shooting casualties which fits their narrative. * Instead we get a buff against machines, which isn't very fitting but a good buff and at least versatile. *when the leaks dropped that expectation was crushed already but you get my point I believe. I am not bitter though. Guess now I have to build sime Vexillas for my units... mooftak and TheTrans 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 See, the hazard stripes have always put me off Iron Warriors. Think they look great, would love to try the scheme and quite like the legion rules/fluff, but I know that my brush skills aren't good enough to do a decent job with the detail of the stripes/chevrons. Petitioner's City 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 See, the hazard stripes have always put me off Iron Warriors. Think they look great, would love to try the scheme and quite like the legion rules/fluff, but I know that my brush skills aren't good enough to do a decent job with the detail of the stripes/chevrons. They're honestly really easy. The base paints of yellows make coverage simple, and the chevrons are just...draw lines with matching angles; position and draw the brush across. If the angles are off, go back and tweak it. If you really need it, use a pencil like in the video, but just do each chevron one at a time so you can maintain the shape properly. Astartes Consul 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Plus you can often get away with a single stripe on small surfaces if you're really not confident. Noserenda and Astartes Consul 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 And bear in mind hazard stripes are optional flare, they arent generally included in the standard uniform, i often mix it in on Officers and NCOs to pick them out, looks good on crests for example where its trivially easy.One good thing in this edition is actually making morale a bit more of a factor in the game, morale immunity, even conditional, just renders a whole mechanic pointless so its not great, and its always been a slippery slope to boot. Astartes Consul and BitsHammer 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scorpion Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) See, the hazard stripes have always put me off Iron Warriors. Think they look great, would love to try the scheme and quite like the legion rules/fluff, but I know that my brush skills aren't good enough to do a decent job with the detail of the stripes/chevrons. Honestly, it's worth practicing I think. If the one thing keeping you from the IVth legion is the paint scheme, then it's worth learning. All the more so since the chevron is the only thing you really need to know for Iron Warriors. The rest is just silver. Edited May 12, 2022 by The Scorpion BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 See, the hazard stripes have always put me off Iron Warriors. Think they look great, would love to try the scheme and quite like the legion rules/fluff, but I know that my brush skills aren't good enough to do a decent job with the detail of the stripes/chevrons. Draw the lines with a .005 micron pen and it'd easier! Aias and Petitioner's City 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCore67 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) The more I see Bekie armour the less I like it. Those flared pants are not my thing. "Pretty much what you would expect for the IVth." Well, I expected them to ignore shooting casualties which fits their narrative. * Instead we get a buff against machines, which isn't very fitting but a good buff and at least versatile. *when the leaks dropped that expectation was crushed already but you get my point I believe. I am not bitter though. Guess now I have to build sime Vexillas for my units... In the leaks, Vexillas now give +1 to combat resolution, let you choose to fallback D6" or 2D6" for cavalry, and prevent your units from running off the board. No more rerolling morale checks. Edited May 12, 2022 by ShadowCore67 Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 New paints, primer and contrast paints incoming. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Is that conjecture, or does someone have more info on it? It does seem likely though, I'd expect Sons of Horus Green and some yellow primer to come into play for SoH/IF. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Hoping to grab mine through my FLGS. That'll save me a decent chunk of money so I will be.....ok. I've been saving but it will wipe out most of my hobby savings for many months. Silver lining is it will likely take me forever to get the whole thing finished. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 The more I see Bekie armour the less I like it. Those flared pants are not my thing. "Pretty much what you would expect for the IVth." Well, I expected them to ignore shooting casualties which fits their narrative. * Instead we get a buff against machines, which isn't very fitting but a good buff and at least versatile. *when the leaks dropped that expectation was crushed already but you get my point I believe. I am not bitter though. Guess now I have to build sime Vexillas for my units... In the leaks, Vexillas now give +1 to combat resolution, let you choose to fallback D6" or 2D6" for cavalry, and prevent your units from running off the board. No more rerolling morale checks.Yeah no Vexillas for me then! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spessmarine Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 in facebook comments for the 30k articles, the warcom account sure is teasing hardlooks like it'll be a fun few weeks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 What are they saying/suggesting? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 White Scars painting video is up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Weird colour placement and choice strikes again. Scars have so much leeway with places where the red goes. And they chose the pack and the wrist straps? The gold feels like an afterthought and doesn't do anything for the scheme. The eyes are baffling. Idk, I get that I'm particular on legions I painted, but this one is especially disappointing compared to the emperors children. darkhorse0607, Hungry Nostraman Lizard and Brother Sutek 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 I've skimmed back a dozen or so pages and can't find anything on it, but has there been any word on the units/characters/missions in the Exemplary Battles releases being included in 2.0? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) I've skimmed back a dozen or so pages and can't find anything on it, but has there been any word on the units/characters/missions in the Exemplary Battles releases being included in 2.0? I can't remember where I saw it (facebook, I think) but GW said the exemplary battles rules were actually written for 2.0 and then backported. So there will be updated profiles for all the units in them for 2.0. No mention of when though, IIRC. Edited May 13, 2022 by Arkhanist Balthamal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelCarmine Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Yeah, GW said, that they all will be included via a PDF, i think. Balthamal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 That makes me both deeply happy (Atramentar and Redloss baby!) and also morbidly terrified of how many organs I'm going to be down by the time all this is priced up Hungry Nostraman Lizard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 I've skimmed back a dozen or so pages and can't find anything on it, but has there been any word on the units/characters/missions in the Exemplary Battles releases being included in 2.0? I can't remember where I saw it (facebook, I think) but GW said the exemplary battles rules were actually written for 2.0 and then backported. So there will be updated profiles for all the units in them for 2.0. No mention of when though, IIRC. It was on the exemplary battle page for the deliverers. It's also reinforced by the bit about Core and Expanded units in the Liber books; units without models will still have rules which will be as valid as rules for units with models. Balthamal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Is that conjecture, or does someone have more info on it? It does seem likely though, I'd expect Sons of Horus Green and some yellow primer to come into play for SoH/IF. They're coming don't know release date, I think the hope is in time for the box release. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 If there is paint line changeups, we should be seeing something in relatively short order. I do wonder if they'll roll some of the old weathering pigments into the main GW line. That would certainly be interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 In the leaks, Vexillas now give +1 to combat resolution, let you choose to fallback D6" or 2D6" for cavalry, and prevent your units from running off the board. No more rerolling morale checks.Yeah no Vexillas for me then! For what it is worth, the few games of playtest 2.0 that were played, the d6 fallback/running off the board pulled its weight very often. And the +1 combat resolution helped against the various morale tests enough to actually matter. But this was ZM so YMMV. Our HH group is definitely going to be stacking vexillas en-masse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/166/#findComment-5827496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts