Scammel Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Beyond Templar Assault providing an actual benefit to charging now, the IF rules shown are pretty much unchanged as far as I can tell. I could have misinterpreted it the first time around but I was under the impression that The Best Defense has become one-use only - which isn't a huge deal, but it does mean that the Fists no longer possess an en-masse anti-deepstrike kill switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelCarmine Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) Beyond Templar Assault providing an actual benefit to charging now, the IF rules shown are pretty much unchanged as far as I can tell. I could have misinterpreted it the first time around but I was under the impression that The Best Defense has become one-use only - which isn't a huge deal, but it does mean that the Fists no longer possess an en-masse anti-deepstrike kill switch. All the Legion specific reactions are one use only. I get, that it would otherwise be to powerfull in most cases, but still seems kind of dumb... "You've trained to do this since you became Astartes, and even before that. But remember, it is prohibited to use this tactic more than once a day by the Emperor, beloved by all! - ...but why? - Shut your *cussing* mouth, that's why!" Edited May 18, 2022 by MichaelCarmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Aaaaand another one. Astartes Consul and BadgersinHills 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Nice one, this. Very spooky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Jeeze... Double edge highlight and lightning with bright points. If you can confidently paint this, you're far outside needing basic gw how to paint videos. That being said, without trim or a really neon highlight, you can't really break up the armour without lightning, so I get that they're a bit stuck. Maybe cut a series of highlights and spend more time showing how to do the lightning? I could also go off on the blue, but I think that's enough lol. painting.for.my.sanity 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Beyond Templar Assault providing an actual benefit to charging now, the IF rules shown are pretty much unchanged as far as I can tell. I could have misinterpreted it the first time around but I was under the impression that The Best Defense has become one-use only - which isn't a huge deal, but it does mean that the Fists no longer possess an en-masse anti-deepstrike kill switch. Yea, you did misinterpret unfortunately. Every legion reaction we've actually seen the rules for has been once per battle. The earliest rumour/leaks were the only ones that failed to mention the once per battle part. Its hard to strike a good balance; saying the legions special maneuver only gets used once, while every other one can be used multiple times doesn't make sense. But they've also made them very strong and spoilery, so you cant allow them to be used too much. Imagine playing against scars, and every time you've moved your last unit after getting close, they just move away with all their units within 12". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lautrec the Embraced Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I mean Night Lords (imo) are not super beginner friendly, it's easy to go too dark or too bright and lightnings can be troublesome (I'd rather do less lightning than in the video but work on them more). Scheme is not bad though, reminds me of my first NLs. painting.for.my.sanity 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 No skull face painted on the helmet though. So could have been even less beginner friendly. Lautrec the Embraced and Hungry Nostraman Lizard 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lautrec the Embraced Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) Yeah, they should give us the ol' razzle dazzle and go with more advanced lightning, skull face, bloody tears, flayed skin, nostraman runes and tarot cards! Beginner's Guide - How to Paint: Horus Heresy Night Lords (video length 7 hours, 48 minutes) Edited May 18, 2022 by Lautrec the Embraced Hungry Nostraman Lizard, WrathOfTheLion, LameBeard and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Yea I totally agree that they're a tough legion to do. If I was doing a beginner scheme I think it'd be -kantor blue basecoat, -same silver bits but include the cables, -thinned basilicum grey the entire thing, -edge drybrush alaitoc (or maybe even teclis) -sponge rhinox/edge metal -eyes the contrast method with a red. Lightning I guess would be done before the drybrush; I personally prefer a very light grey and it to go sheets, but regardless of the colour and style, just spend some decent time on it. Maybe cutting a stage of highlights, the red cables, and a stage for the eyes would result in enough free time for a decent lightning overview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalt Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 What's the difference between kantor blue vs. night lords blue? They look identical in internet images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) What's the difference between kantor blue vs. night lords blue? They look identical in internet images.Night lords blue is darker, to the point where it doesn't quite read as blue and has trouble picking up definition when pin washing. As a base colour that's going to be developed more, it's fine; as basically a standalone colour, I don't rate it very highly. Edit: in other night lords news, they lost the proc off negatively modified characteristic units. Which is fair, because it was basically any unit within 12" lol. Their unique chain weapons are still very strong, the legion trait is very strong, and the warlord trait is whatever compared to curze and sevatar. Edited May 18, 2022 by SkimaskMohawk lansalt 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 So... is it possible to outnumber your target in the shooting phase? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 So... is it possible to outnumber your target in the shooting phase? ;) Well considering the entirety of the rules for outnumbering is found there, yes lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I wonder if we are going to get an Exemplary Battle this week? We are due one, and they did one just before the preview at the start of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 What Legions have yet to be done? Is it just Sons of Horus, Salamanders and Word Bearers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Also Alpha Legion, Iron Hands, Thousand Sons, Space Wolves IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Oh wow, so still quite a few then. At a guess they may wait until 2.0 is out then release all the old ones as updated versions then start it up again, either that or they release the PDF with the 2.0 rules in it. Astartes Consul 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elzender Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 And Blood Angels are next! From memory: IX Blood Angels X Iron Hands XII World Eaters XIII Ultramarines XIV Death Guard XV Thousand Sons XVI Sons of Horus XVII Word Bearers XVIII Salamanders XIX Raven Guard XX Alpha Legion I always mix up the order after Ultramarines, so please do let me know if I am off on any of them! Cactus and Aias 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Legionnare Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 And Blood Angels are next! From memory: IX Blood Angels X Iron Hands XII World Eaters XIII Ultramarines XIV Death Guard XV Thousand Sons XVI Sons of Horus XVII Word Bearers XVIII Salamanders XIX Raven Guard XX Alpha Legion I always mix up the order after Ultramarines, so please do let me know if I am off on any of them! As long as you don't jinx anybody with a mistakenly applied: "II" or "XI" Elzender 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mard Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 So for all of you experienced players and people who have read the leked playtest.If i was keen to strat painting some more minis now, and have the means to purchase some new toys.What would you take that's anti "Spartan full of terminators"? I was slowly painting up a Dark Angels force last year so I'm good on my standard bolter boys and I have a lovely Deredero Las/missile Dread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Quite like this one - although, I twitched quite a bit at the lack of nuln / agrax on the metallics. WrathOfTheLion, Corswain and BitsHammer 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trixie Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) So for all of you experienced players and people who have read the leked playtest. If i was keen to strat painting some more minis now, and have the means to purchase some new toys. What would you take that's anti "Spartan full of terminators"? I was slowly painting up a Dark Angels force last year so I'm good on my standard bolter boys and I have a lovely Deredero Las/missile Dread Haywire is a solid counter to the Spartan/deathstar. Grav rapiers and contemptors with melee weps and inbuilt grav will do the job. The playtest leaks include a number of new turrets for the predator, one of which was a grav cannon. Edited May 19, 2022 by Trixie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 So for all of you experienced players and people who have read the leked playtest. If i was keen to strat painting some more minis now, and have the means to purchase some new toys. What would you take that's anti "Spartan full of terminators"? I was slowly painting up a Dark Angels force last year so I'm good on my standard bolter boys and I have a lovely Deredero Las/missile Dread 10 man lascannon squad or melta team in a rhino can kill most things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 How points pricey or survival do we think the las squad will be compared to triple grav-pred? I wont be holding my breath for plastic legion rapiers, but I will hope for them :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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