Astartes Consul Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Yeah, it'd suck if Horus or whatever gave you three reactions and you stole the cheese right off of Sanguinius' sandwich shutting off any BA charge bonuses with the base reaction, three times a turn. Tbh I highly doubt his reaction ability from the leak will remain - it was Phase 1 (allegedly) and so obviously breaks the game for anyone playing against a SoH army that they will have easily picked it up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Yeah, it'd suck if Horus or whatever gave you three reactions and you stole the cheese right off of Sanguinius' sandwich shutting off any BA charge bonuses with the base reaction, three times a turn. Tbh I highly doubt his reaction ability from the leak will remain - it was Phase 1 (allegedly) and so obviously breaks the game for anyone playing against a SoH army that they will have easily picked it up. Ehhhhhh you say that. But Ive heard from peeps that when this was brought up they got back "yeah well, its Horus so its fine" esp as a once-per-game ability. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Yeah, it'd suck if Horus or whatever gave you three reactions and you stole the cheese right off of Sanguinius' sandwich shutting off any BA charge bonuses with the base reaction, three times a turn. Tbh I highly doubt his reaction ability from the leak will remain - it was Phase 1 (allegedly) and so obviously breaks the game for anyone playing against a SoH army that they will have easily picked it up. Ehhhhhh you say that. But Ive heard from peeps that when this was brought up they got back "yeah well, its Horus so its fine" esp as a once-per-game ability. Hmmm. Was it always a once-per-game ability? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Yeah, it'd suck if Horus or whatever gave you three reactions and you stole the cheese right off of Sanguinius' sandwich shutting off any BA charge bonuses with the base reaction, three times a turn. Tbh I highly doubt his reaction ability from the leak will remain - it was Phase 1 (allegedly) and so obviously breaks the game for anyone playing against a SoH army that they will have easily picked it up. Ehhhhhh you say that. But Ive heard from peeps that when this was brought up they got back "yeah well, its Horus so its fine" esp as a once-per-game ability. Hmmm. Was it always a once-per-game ability? Horus' ability is, once per game, he can allow every unit in his army to make 1 reaction, each, in every phase regardless of reaction allotment. But a unit can still only ever make 1 reaction per phase. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Anyone remember what the upgrade rumours actually were? Initially Fists, SOH, World Eaters and something else. Can't remember. Glad they are doing the upgrades but wish they had invested the resources to get them all ready for launch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 The new kit is way better than spaghetti prints. Unless you know someone with a great printer suggesting 3D prints is just edgy internet cringe. Those heads are great. I buy mine from shapeways and etsy, typically. Brother Sutek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) The new kit is way better than spaghetti prints. Unless you know someone with a great printer suggesting 3D prints is just edgy internet cringe. Those heads are great. Shapeways is 3d printing. Depends on the material of course, but their UV 'smoothest fine' acrylic is high quality. You can buy a 2k resolution budget resin printer for £200 these days, or £300 for a 4k one. Spend a bit more, and you can get one with a build plate big enough to print a tank in one go. Low resolution extrusion-based printers (spaghetti prints...) are fine for terrain, but the 3d print space has developed a lot in the last couple of years for high quality models. e.g. i printed the light grey parts for these guys on a 2k printer the other day for about 60p in resin all told (they hadn't yet had a rinse in water to get rid of sanding dust when this pic was taken) Is it mainstream where everyone has a printer? Of course not. But access to a local quality 3d printing company, or buying your own keeps getting easier. Edited May 19, 2022 by Arkhanist Pacific81, CaptainFrederickson, Runefyre and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Are we due for an Exemplary Battle? Some legions are still missing theirs Marshal Mittens and The Scorpion 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Are we due for an Exemplary Battle? Some legions are still missing theirs Yup, due one this week. So unless it drops tomorrow, probably a good indication they're holding off until the 2.0 release for the rest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Anyone remember what the upgrade rumours actually were? Initially Fists, SOH, World Eaters and something else. Can't remember. Glad they are doing the upgrades but wish they had invested the resources to get them all ready for launch. If those rumours were from naftka, you might as well throw them in the bin. Everything they reported has been proven untrue. Corswain, The Scorpion, Joe and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spessmarine Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Not the most exciting thing, hope these don't take 18 Thursdays to be shown off one-by-one Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 I think we'll see SoH upgrades and the Leviathan before box d-day, and that'll be about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spessmarine Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) I think we'll see SoH upgrades and the Leviathan before box d-day, and that'll be about it. Possibly. Keeping an eye on what goes unavailable on the store page. Sabres appear no longer available. Course, as happens with the GW storepage, sometimes things are just down accidentally or for repackaging it seems Edited May 20, 2022 by spessmarine Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Anyone remember what the upgrade rumours actually were? Initially Fists, SOH, World Eaters and something else. Can't remember. Glad they are doing the upgrades but wish they had invested the resources to get them all ready for launch. If those rumours were from naftka, you might as well throw them in the bin. Everything they reported has been proven untrue. Lol. No, I've been around long enough to know better - thought they came from other, far more reputable sources and discussed here. I had a couple of people in mind but am hesitant to name someone in case I am wrong. I would hate to damage someones name/reputation with my poor memory. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) Lol. No, I've been around long enough to know better - thought they came from other, far more reputable sources and discussed here. I had a couple of people in mind but am hesitant to name someone in case I am wrong. I would hate to damage someones name/reputation with my poor memory.Sadly, the first place I remember them cropping up was Faiet/Natfka - past that, people just kept mentioning "the rumours" and treating them as if they'd come from a "reputable source", ala the big Warhammer 40,000 leak last year, the slew of Heresy stuff we had this year and so on. Wasn't great imo. Iron Hands are up. Edited May 21, 2022 by Captain Idaho Off topic element removed BitsHammer, Corswain and painting.for.my.sanity 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Don't like that Iron Hands scheme at all. Daimyo-Phaeron Lenoch 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDizzle Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) I believe the faeit rumours were SoH, IF, WE, BA, WS and EC. Also said they would be £9.50 iirc which would make sense for the size of the upgrade kits we saw yesterday. Even if it is pure luck that the rumours are kinda right here, it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s those legions too as theme seems to be siege of terra. It’s weird though - all the faeit rumours have been right-ish but not 100% right. Edited May 20, 2022 by JDizzle Taliesin 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalt Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Don't like that Iron Hands scheme at all. What Iron Hands scheme? That's clearly an Iron Warrior Cyrox and Brofist 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Yea I don't understand the metallic body and black pads. It's not like you can argue the metallic is styluses black with the pads right there. Or after that drybrush of iron hands over it. It's actually a nice, easy scheme, but just so not iron hands lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Butcher Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Iron Hands are up. Why have they morphed into Silver Skulls???? Astartes Consul and Dark Legionnare 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 The new kit is way better than spaghetti prints. Unless you know someone with a great printer suggesting 3D prints is just edgy internet cringe. Those heads are great.. Please be quite you clearly have zero knowledge on the situation Brother Sutek, armarnis and Noserenda 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Didnt realise this was the "State of the Outer Circle" thread :D If i wanted social media drama id read the comments :D Marshal Loss, infyrana and lansalt 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 There’s obviously a change in how the legions are painted as not only has the painting moved from FW to GW and the paint options have changed over time. We’re seeing the Iron Hands as a very dark, oily metal rather than straight black, without using oil paints (like many IH schemes do) which resulted in a lighter tone. Personally, I would have used a mix of contrast medium and Black Templar contrast paint instead of Basilicanum Grey. I’m more curious about what they plan to do to differentiate the Raven Guard from the Dark Angels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) A white shoulderpad would be a good start for Raven Guard. They may also do Corvus black with a basilicanum grey or a nuln oil wash instead of Abaddon black. It'd've been easier if they kept the red boltgun casing on the Dark Angels, though. There’s obviously a change in how the legions are painted as not only has the painting moved from FW to GW and the paint options have changed over time. We’re seeing the Iron Hands as a very dark, oily metal rather than straight black, without using oil paints (like many IH schemes do) which resulted in a lighter tone. Personally, I would have used a mix of contrast medium and Black Templar contrast paint instead of Basilicanum Grey. I’m more curious about what they plan to do to differentiate the Raven Guard from the Dark Angels. In the article they just put up, it looks to me like they did what you said with Black Templar contrast on the metal. Edited May 20, 2022 by WrathOfTheLion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) The one they posted in the Legion article looks way better, for me anyways (minus the bluetack? at his wrist that is ) and is definitely the scheme I think I'm going to aim for Edited May 20, 2022 by TrawlingCleaner Marshal Mittens and petesamd 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/369602-state-of-the-union-heresy/page/173/#findComment-5829991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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