Brother Kraskor Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 IDK how I had missed Primarchs now having LA: (X) and thus now benefit from those rules. Huh, neat. Can be a nifty depending on Legion. So if Fulgrim strikes at Initiative 9 on the charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternus Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) IDK how I had missed Primarchs now having LA: (X) and thus now benefit from those rules. Huh, neat. Can be a nifty depending on Legion.Didn't notice that at all, huh, that's...different. Opens up most of the legion unique reactions to them as well that way I think. Wondering if this means the primarchs benefit from their own 'sire of the x' rules, or at least the ones that don't specify infantry - for instance Russ gives all 'legiones astartes (space wolves)' in the same army as him +1 str on charge. Edited May 29, 2022 by Aeternus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Butcher Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Anybody know what the rules 'reach' and 'shell shock' are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen11 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Deathshroud terminators have 3 wounds and battle hardened. Add a character with toxin bombs then they would melt any non +2 save unit that charges them. character can also have rad granades ,meaning those scythes are insta gibbing almost anyone,lol, since you will be T3 if you are charged or charge them...it's really ridiculous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternus Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) Anybody know what the rules 'reach' and 'shell shock' are? I'm pretty sure Reach(x) grants a bonus to initiative when using that weapon (x being the bonus), while Shell Shock(x) makes pinning tests caused by the weapon to be taken at -x ld, or -1 if nothing is specified. Edited May 29, 2022 by Aeternus Billy Butcher 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Horus Heresy is now on the main site in third place hierarchy: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/The-Horus-Heresy?N=1513056490&Nr=AND%28sku.siteId%3AGB_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_GB_gw%29&Nrs=collection%28%29%2Frecord%5Bproduct.startDate+%3C%3D+1653825720000+and+product.endDate+%3E%3D+1653825720000%5D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 'Start Your Army' links to Forge World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 When I try to go to the website it just shows a white page. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 When I try to go to the website it just shows a white page. :-D Is this better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 It worked now, thx :) Petitioner's City 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burni Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 So how many of the 40 marines in your first box will become special or heavy weapon marines? I’m currently at 20… I love devastators, what can I say. (I hope the weapon boxes are released same day as the main box). Corswain 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) I'm planning on doing 80 tacticals, 20 tactical support, and 20 Heavy Support. Want to have 20-30 veterans and 20 ish reavers too. I really like infantry. I think the normal beakies will be super quick to paint as SoH as well. Edited May 29, 2022 by Marshall Mittens Burni and Gorgoff 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Going through the organized legions males me feel better about the night lords fear bomb. There's a lot of army wide stubborn being handed out by rites and primarchs, or other leadership bonuses. Mortarion straight up counters it, word bearers can never be reduced below LD 6, Dorn gives all fists his leadership, various warlord traits grant immunity from morale, etc... Means I'll actually have to include stuff that can kill with their weapons lol. At least, once my opponents start to reach the leadership stuff in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 IW MoS with ML Tyrant of Lyssatra joins 5 men HSS with lascannons. BS5, S10 against vehicles etc ten shots. WOOOOPY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebus Apollon Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Great content here, I'm very thankful to read about. Are there anywhere datasheets of Breacher Squads, Contemptors and Cataphractii? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDizzle Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Great content here, I'm very thankful to read about. Are there anywhere datasheets of Breacher Squads, Contemptors and Cataphractii? Not sure any generic unit rules beyond the playtest have leaked yet (despite apparently being in the same books as the legion rules) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternus Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Great content here, I'm very thankful to read about. Are there anywhere datasheets of Breacher Squads, Contemptors and Cataphractii? Since I assume there'll only be minimal changes between Phase 3 playtest generic stuff and the released generic units, here's a link which has the generic units in (though obviously any loyalist/traitor rules are now out of date since we've seen the print releases). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Would be nice of one of the leakers to at least look over the generic units though, *looks into camera, winks* im still hoping we arent forced to put sponsons on everything for example. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Wallets of everyone on this thread currently screaming with terror. The pre-order is next weekend... https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/29/sunday-preview-the-age-of-darkness-descends/ Excessus, Petitioner's City, Loquille and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerOrders Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) So now that I have had more time to chew on it. I think the EC might actually have somehow gotten alot weaker in terms of elites. Phoenix Guard are completely incapable of dealing with their peers outside of desperately hoping for 6s. Palatines do a little better if you get them on axes but are now just super-vulnerable foot sloggers that you need to send after termies that dont have AP2 ranged weapons and to start praying your opponent doesnt just bomb them into oblivion. I love both units and I will keep fielding mine but I think the EC as of right now have elites that you are better off sending to hunt rank and file while dealing with enemy heavy units will require drowning them in assault squads or artillery. Skill Unmatched sounds nice but it is going to be pretty useless unless you find something with WS 5 that isn't wearing artificer or terminator armor. It really only seems useful for dealing with 3+ hordes or as a desperate gambit if you got outplayed and are trying to stave off more competently-armed terminators or artificed things. Sending them against anything in terminator armor is just overpriced suicide. Although weirdly enough, I guess Phoenix Guard are bizarrely effective against mechanicum stuff with the strength boost to spears. I can't really say I like this at all... Edited May 29, 2022 by StrangerOrders Brother Kraskor 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Generally ap2 at initiative has gone down drastically over the board...except for Ultramarines for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicebod Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 So now that I have had more time to chew on it. I think the EC might actually have somehow gotten alot weaker in terms of elites. Phoenix Guard are completely incapable of dealing with their peers outside of desperately hoping for 6s. Palatines do a little better if you get them on axes but are now just super-vulnerable foot sloggers that you need to send after termies that dont have AP2 ranged weapons and to start praying your opponent doesnt just bomb them into oblivion. I love both units and I will keep fielding mine but I think the EC as of right now have elites that you are better off sending to hunt rank and file while dealing with enemy heavy units will require drowning them in assault squads or artillery. Skill Unmatched sounds nice but it is going to be pretty useless unless you find something with WS 5 that isn't wearing artificer or terminator armor. It really only seems useful for dealing with 3+ hordes or as a desperate gambit if you got outplayed and are trying to stave off more competently-armed terminators or artificed things. Sending them against anything in terminator armor is just overpriced suicide. Although weirdly enough, I guess Phoenix Guard are bizarrely effective against mechanicum stuff with the strength boost to spears. I can't really say I like this at all... I guess the important thing to remember is that the confluence of the new WS to hit chart and sonic shriekers means against WS 4 both these units will be hit back on 6s, and can achieve the same thing against WS5 with Perfect Guard. I’m not super enthused about phoenix spears losing AP 2/1 either, but them picking up extra strength (all the time), instant death and breaching offsets this a bit. I’m not in panic mode just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 So how many of the 40 marines in your first box will become special or heavy weapon marines? I’m currently at 20… I love devastators, what can I say. (I hope the weapon boxes are released same day as the main box). 10 heavies but I'm also going to do 10 assault. See how well the kits can handle it. Astartes Consul and Burni 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman101 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 So how many of the 40 marines in your first box will become special or heavy weapon marines? Probably none. Going to make 10 Despoilers. Might trade off the other 30 or help some friends build their Legions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Generally ap2 at initiative has gone down drastically over the board...except for Ultramarines for some reason. We all know the reason Spagunk 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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