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Hey guys! 

I've got a great game against an AWESOME BA army coming up this evening. 

 

I'm looking at the same list I've been running for a while-  I would have liked to tweak it, and still will at some point in the future, but I'm wanting to see where the weaknesses are in the general concept. 

 

That list is:

 

Master of Sanctity on Bike - Benediction, Mantra, Hate, SoulWarden, Sword of Imp. 

Chief Libby - JP, Tomb of Malcador, Nullzone, Veil, Might, Psychic Mastery

 

5x Incursors

5x Infiltrators- Helix

5x Infiltrators - Helix

 

10x VV - JP, 6xLC, 3xTH, 10xSS.

8x DC - JP, 4xInfPist, 3x TH

5x BladeGuard 

 

2x Attack Bikes- 2MM

2x Attack Bikes- 2MM

2x Attack Bikes- 2MM

 

5x Devs - 2LC, 1HB,1GC, Cherub

3x Eradicators 

 

 

 

Buuut....check how sexy my opponents list is:





Chaplain on Bike -  Rites of War, Icon 

Libby Dread -  Speed of Primarch, Wings, Quickening

Chief Libby - Psychic Mastery, JP, Tomb of Malcador, Nullzone, Veil, Fortress

5x Assault Inters

 

3x Blade Guard

3x Blade Guard

5x SG - Swords

5x SG - Swords

10x VV - 10LC,10SS

10x VV - 10LC,10SS

 

Contemptor - MM, Claw

Contemptor - MM, Claw

 

Whirlwind

 

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Buuut....check how sexy my opponents list is:

Chaplain on Bike -  Rites of War, Icon 

Libby Dread -  Speed of Primarch, Wings, Quickening

Chief Libby - Psychic Mastery, JP, Tomb of Malcador, Nullzone, Veil, Fortress

 

5x Assault Inters

 

3x Blade Guard

3x Blade Guard

5x SG - Swords

5x SG - Swords

10x VV - 10LC,10SS

10x VV - 10LC,10SS

 

Contemptor - MM, Claw

Contemptor - MM, Claw

 

Whirlwind

 

 

1Contemptor - MM, Cl

 

Is this 1 patrol + 1 vanguard detachment, assuming the last contemptor at the bottom is a mistake? If it's not, what detachments are they using to get 9 elite slots with 1 troop choice?

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My only question is why soulwarden?

You already get 2 denies.

I'd take Rites of War or pretty much any other warlord trait.

 

You have a much more balanced list, so your going to have to leverage your increased shooting to win. SG and Contemptors don't like melta fire.

And your Vanguard squad really has to watch out for nullzone.

 

You can also go in for Engage with the bikes while still contributing, his list will find it more difficult

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My only question is why soulwarden?

You already get 2 denies.

I'd take Rites of War or pretty much any other warlord trait.

 

You have a much more balanced list, so your going to have to leverage your increased shooting to win. SG and Contemptors don't like melta fire.

And your Vanguard squad really has to watch out for nullzone.

 

You can also go in for Engage with the bikes while still contributing, his list will find it more difficult

Soulwarden doesn’t give a deny anymore, that was in 8th. Now it gives a 5+++ against mortal wounds in a 6” aura

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My only question is why soulwarden?

You already get 2 denies.

I'd take Rites of War or pretty much any other warlord trait.

 

You have a much more balanced list, so your going to have to leverage your increased shooting to win. SG and Contemptors don't like melta fire.

And your Vanguard squad really has to watch out for nullzone.

 

You can also go in for Engage with the bikes while still contributing, his list will find it more difficult

Soulwarden doesn’t give a deny anymore, that was in 8th. Now it gives a 5+++ against mortal wounds in a 6” aura

I'm aware of that. But unless I'm not aware of a non-psychic based mortal wound spam army, that warlord trait in a LOT of games is basically nothing at all.

And if they have a smite spamming psyker, 2 denies still.

Like vs the upcoming game vs another BA list that has no access to mortal wounds really.

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Hey all! WIll upload and battle report soon!

 

What a great, great, great game.   Bad news however, is that we only got to turn 3 on account of me getting to the shop late and the shop closing that night :sad.:

 

But, it was epic - what a great list. 

 

@Unseen - yeh, i think most of the other Frater have covered it - the MW sources in 9th are becoming massively prolific- which is an issue.  It didnt come up at all in this game, to be honest, but I take TAC lists for practice usually. 

 

@Xenith - I think it was 8 Elite slots- so, yeah- you got it spot on!  One vanguard and one patrol !  (I saw the errant Contemptor at the bottom! yeah, defs typo!)

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