Viability of Codex (+war of the spider) Only Custodies

[Kervin40k]

I am looking at starting Custodies, but I want to start out with only plastic/40k Codex stuff. Is that even viable in 9th ed for simi-competive play? Other than a few boxes of guardians what else should I look at getting.  And do you think any of the other plastic stuff will be back ported to the new rumored 30k?

[DOGGED]

I'm just starting too, but from what I have seen (read) here and there, termies and bikes are solid buys alongside guards. There was a thread somewhere (reddit?) with a nice guide for buying and list building by stages (500-1000-1500-2000). IIRC it had, at all, 3 boxes of termies and 2 each of guards and bikes, and the character. All in all, it worked (seems) a fine list at every stage, and kept both the model count and money costs quite low.

 

EDIT for typos.

Edited April 23, 2021 by DOGGED

[Kervin40k]

I'm just atarting too, but from what I have seen (read) here and there, termies and bikes are solid buys alongside guards. There was a thread somewhere (reddit?) with a nice guide for buying and list building by stages (500-1000-1500-2000). IIRC it had, at all, 3 boxes of termies and 2 each of guards and bikes, and the character. All in all, it worked (seems) a fine list at every stage, and kept both the model count and money costs quite low.

 Thanks for shedding light on the reddit post.  I found it and it was great.  

[DOGGED]

You're welcome. 

If someone with more experience could expand on it and put it on this forum, maybe even with a sticky, newcomers such as us would be glad for sure. Even more if such a thread would have a dual progression, with and without FW units, so it's editable for newer editions/revisions etc.

Just sayin'...

  

[Closet Skeleton]

Pretty much every 40k codex is viable for semi-competative play. Even supposedly garbage armies that appear hated by the own playerbase can reliably get 2/5 wins and a decent sized tournament.

 

Depends what you mean by 'semi' competative. If it means a small local gaming group where one guy has a nastier list than anyone else and refuses to play anything else then 'semi-competative' can be way less fair and balanced than a large 'competative' event. Its very easy for a small club to go to a tournament and for the guy who usually wins most won't do very well because he'll be fighting better players with similar lists while the guys who usually get trounced will do better than normal by day 2 because they'll have been sorted against other players more on their level.

 

Its also very possible for a bad competative list to be over-powered against 5 specific collections. Since custodes have a very unique profile I would suspect it would be very easy for them to fall into that situation. If your army is all 3 wounds T5 then its very easy to invincible against one list and tissue paper against a different one.

[DOGGED]

Pretty much every 40k codex is viable for semi-competative play. Even supposedly garbage armies that appear hated by the own playerbase can reliably get 2/5 wins and a decent sized tournament.

 

Depends what you mean by 'semi' competative. If it means a small local gaming group where one guy has a nastier list than anyone else and refuses to play anything else then 'semi-competative' can be way less fair and balanced than a large 'competative' event. Its very easy for a small club to go to a tournament and for the guy who usually wins most won't do very well because he'll be fighting better players with similar lists while the guys who usually get trounced will do better than normal by day 2 because they'll have been sorted against other players more on their level.

 

Its also very possible for a bad competative list to be over-powered against 5 specific collections. Since custodes have a very unique profile I would suspect it would be very easy for them to fall into that situation. If your army is all 3 wounds T5 then its very easy to invincible against one list and tissue paper against a different one.

 

One can't but agree with that statement.

 

That being said, I think (I guess, really) the OP refers to what specifically should be bought as to make out a semi-competitive list (and I suppose it means a list which works for friendly playing but also can hold its own in a low intensity competitive scene), the basic restriction being that such units be plastic, so no FW.

 

I have that basic premise, that my Talons army be only plastic with no resin in it. I even prefer to have more plastic units than to have any resin one. I am being totally arbitrary here and have absolutely no disdain towards FW and/or resin. In fact I find FW Custodes units/vehicles to be great looking, some of them (Sagittarius and Achillus) being brilliant gamewise too. I'm even making the most of my old Land Raiders to provide transports/tanks and using Venerable Contemptors (and hoping GW will provide better rules/options for them). I'd rather have another Allarus/Guards/Sisters unit than spending extra to have them Sagittarius or Aquillons etc.