Doghouse Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Well as fortune would have it an opportunity has arisen to actually get some games in next year so I am going for one of my favourite Legions, the Iron Warriors. By chance I came across a site called Tortuga Bay that happens to make Truescale bodies and legs so decided to take a chance and order some. The quality and detail is spot on and they work with the MK III plastics so I jumped on the chance to get an army of these. I did try the regular plastics but really couldn't get on with them. When I first started Truescaling the focus had been on the Great Crusade because I wanted to create a distinction between 30k and 40k, adopting an almost historical gaming approach to how the armies were portrayed. Truescaling was perfect for this and thankfully many others followed my example and Truescaling is now something very much associated with the Heresy which always makes me smile. So the plan is Infantry heavy. This fits two ideals for me at the same time, firstly when I played the original Space Marine it was mass Mk 6 armies and secondly because of the way the 4th fights. It is a very unforgiving punishing way to way war when faced by the likes of tanks and titans. Scale Shot Warsmith This will be the Warsmith. I still need to add the servo arm but he will be armed with a combi-melta, Artificer Armour, Paragon Blade and Digi-lasers. I'm not going for any thing grandiose because he wouldn't want to present too easy a target for enemy snipers, relying instead on the helmet plume of the Sergeant to draw their fire. I did a last minute correction to the gun as it was too tall so need to clean that up a bit before painting. Lastly the group shot of the first 15, I may bump this up to 20 but there will be about 70 or so in total when completed. Each has the bare minimum of gear to get the objective completed but I may include some ammo bearers which may be fun. I have a couple of Malcadors I may use but leaning to adding a Legion Glaive. I like the idea of this company being assigned as basically a begrudging meat shield for the huge tank. Cadmus Tyro, Master Commander Ajax, Xin Ceithan and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Tortuga are fantastic - I've been eying them up for a while now, as they apparently take commissions. That said, given Geedub have hammer slapped a few people for blatant copy-catting again recently it's only a matter of time before these are no longer available. It's always nicer to see more art scale designs, though - even if they are held back by everything else being non-art scale. Master Commander Ajax 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5704949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalt Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Amazing models. The better proportions really makes Astartes look as the giants they are in the fluff. My only criticism, from a "rivet counter" and pseudo-historical perspective is the phobos combi-melta. Phobos combi-weapons should be side by side rather than one above the other. Master Commander Ajax 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5704951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Saw some of these on eBay, thankyou for providing the source :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5704960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 Joe: Yeah they are really nice but definitely must be appearing on GW legal radar sooner or later. The models are extremely accurate to the original designs and if anyone is going to get some it might be better to do it sooner rather than later. I've been looking for easier ways to make these guys for some time now, I've seen some on other sites but nothing of this quality. I didn't know about the commissions thing though, thanks for the heads up on that as that is handy to know. I think these benefit infantry armies the most. Like you say although 40k vehicles in general are not in scale truescaling emphasis's that even more. I have seen some really nice truescale tanks and dabbled myself over the years, depending on how this army progresses I may have a bash. Fourth edition Space Marine codex has scale shots in the army section that are quite useful for this. Iansalt: Yeah totally agree. I think that would be the case early on in the Great Crusade.I am a bit rusty on the details as I'm playing catch up but if I remember right Mk IV tech came in around forty years before the Heresy in First Heretic. Although in Alpharius I'm sure I recall them using it on operations at the time they were still looking for Primarchs. I think this is going to be more of a one off model rather than something that made it into mass production, so maybe a forerunner to the Mk IV style combi weapons perhaps gifted to him by a Salamander officer. I also like the idea of an Officer being so hard up for supplies that he has taken a trophy from the enemy which was typically frowned on before the Heresy (Lucius and his Xenoblade spring to mind). Maybe he took it from a dead Iron Hand or Salamander at Istvaan V. I'm pretty much the same when it comes to rivet counting so 100% on board with that. Grotsmasha: No worries mate. Seems like news of these are spreading within the Heresy community now so might be worth getting them sooner rather than later. I can't vouch for the Mk II and Mk IV versions but these are lovely to use. I think that regular Mk IV arms would be a bit too thin personally and it may be better to use Reiver arms. Joe, lansalt and Master Commander Ajax 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5704961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) I didn't know about the commissions thing though, thanks for the heads up on that as that is handy to know. Yep, he shared that little tidbit on his Instagram recently, when he posted an example of some Mark II World Eater's he was working on. Edited May 30, 2021 by Joe Master Commander Ajax and Doghouse 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5704977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 Nice! :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5704978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Nostraman Lizard Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Oooh, I look forward to this. Have you decided on the direction you'll take the Fourth in? Infantry heavy? Artillery? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 Probably infantry heavy but I do have a couple of Malcadors. Right now I have Warsmith, two twenty man tacticals, a fifteen man tactical and an Iron Havoc squad with Lascannons. So a big footslogging army maybe backed up by a couple of aged tanks. The other direction I could take is add a Legion Glaive that the force is centred around as a meat shield for it. I like the idea that they are expendable but the tank isn't. The advantage of the Malcadors is that they are scaled to humans so technically they are truescale in comparison to the Astartes. Plus having a couple of old beat up tanks to rely on rather than the new tech as support is very appealing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Nostraman Lizard Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 The other direction I could take is add a Legion Glaive that the force is centred around as a meat shield for it. I like the idea that they are expendable but the tank isn't. This is my favorite idea. Do it! I love to look at glaives. My buddy also has a Malcador for his Iron Warriors, it works really well for him. Incredibly beefy, but quite easy to hit the sides, be mindful of anti-tank teams. Pearson73 and Doghouse 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Love the idea of a semi-expendable infantry group, acting as an escort to crucial armoured assets. I think Malcadors are very fitting for the IVth too, solid dependable workhorses. The troopers look great and the no-frills aesthetic of the Warsmith is spot-on. Doghouse 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) Hungry Nostraman Lizard: Yeah it'd be a nice idea I think. Basically have it a case of them being ordered to get the Glaive to an extraction point to prep for the attack on Terra. That is their sole purpose in the war, get the tank to Terra no matter the cost to support the Warmaster. They can be replaced but as the attrition of the war grinds down valuable resources on both sides the Martian tech in the tank becomes priceless. Pearson73: I like the idea of him just doing his best to blend in. I imagine him being a field promotion above his aspirations, so maybe the Centurion and Praetor were killed by a sniper and he was first Sergeant. Given the Iron Warrior's tendency for paranoia he's quite happy for the Sergeants to stick their necks out as targets while he disappears amongst the troops. Edited May 30, 2021 by Doghouse Pearson73 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 Well got these under coated and I am about to christen the air brush. Wish me luck o7 Hungry Nostraman Lizard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 For just basic base coating the airbrush has saved a ton of time alone, that is without all the tricks and things you can do on top of that. I can finally finish armies again. I'll post some pictures in a bit but got them base coated in metal, slight highlight then washed with nuln oil all using the airbrush in no time at all Very impressed. Hungry Nostraman Lizard and Pearson73 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Wow, that really is quite some time saving! Doghouse 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry Nostraman Lizard Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Welcome to a whole new world. Airbrushing changed the name of the game for me. Namely, base-coating. I would have never opted for a tank army if I had to base coat it all by hand. Doghouse 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 Only took about half an hour I think. But can start highlighting shading and weathering now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 The other direction I could take is add a Legion Glaive that the force is centred around as a meat shield for it. I like the idea that they are expendable but the tank isn't. This is my favorite idea. Do it! I love to look at glaives. My buddy also has a Malcador for his Iron Warriors, it works really well for him. Incredibly beefy, but quite easy to hit the sides, be mindful of anti-tank teams. I did something similar for my iron warriors. Kind of. I actually used the glaive as a fire magnet to let the screening mass of infantry push up and secure objectives. It's really annoying to shoot iron warriors off the table and objectives are ultimately how you win, while the glaive oddly scales down over the course of the game. Hungry Nostraman Lizard and Doghouse 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 That's my thinking as well, typically that is how I like to play. Been a while since I played 7th though so I am going to be more than rusty. I do remember them being hard to shift off objectives. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 That's my thinking as well, typically that is how I like to play. Been a while since I played 7th though so I am going to be more than rusty. I do remember them being hard to shift off objectives. Well they just don't take morale from shooting. So you have to grind them off objectives, potentially through a cover save and going to ground, instead of chipping a few off and hoping they run away. Doghouse 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsam Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 As a regular opponent of Iron Warriors, the grind is real. That unit of havocs isn't ever going to run away, so you have to kill them off. They're the fantasy undead of 30k! Love this blog so far. The airbrush makes such a massive shift. Hungry Nostraman Lizard and Doghouse 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 SkiMaskMohawk: Oh for sure, I'm counting on that. Just plonk a big unit down and hold the ground. Mogsam: Thanks mate. Oh yeah, just ordered some rysa pattern lascannon so Havocs are a must. So a bit of an update. The idea behind the officer is that he he's made his way up to where he is mainly out of self preservation. During the cull when Pertabo was re-united with the Legion he cheated and made sure that his Sergeant was selected in his place for death. This wasn't done out of power or cowardice but simply out of self preservation. It drove home just how disposable he and his brothers were, he was doing fine until the Praetor and Centurion of his company were taken out by a sniper shortly after being ordered to escort the Glaive to Terra for the Siege. So he's back in a position of vulnerability and not happy about it but he has a nice shiny new gun that had been gifted to his Praetor by the Salamanders. He's not an evil moustache twirling villain, he's just trying to stay alive and doesn't care how he achieves it. Lighting isn't great but he's getting there. Loquille, Ryltar Thamior, Master Commander Ajax and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 Little bit more. Probably going to break out the burnt umber and weathering powders for these guys. Elzender and Ryltar Thamior 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 Enjoying these so far. lansalt, MegaVolt87, Ryltar Thamior and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5705859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Top notch face there. How are you going to be doing the crests on the helms? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370462-iv-legion/#findComment-5706011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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