Breachers, Destroyers... or none?

[AfroCampbell]

Hey guys,

just doing some list building, trying to decide whether the Kataphrons are any good, seems there are several builds that seem fairly solid, obviously the lack of CORE is a bit lame for them, (but probably entirely reasonable seeing how strong we seem atm), but how would you run these guys? what builds work for them, or are they not worth taking at all?

 

[Magos Takatus]

I'm not entirely sure how I will field mine in future but there are some interesting thoughts here: 

 

Breachers seem to throw out more damage in assault now and their 2+ save gives them a lot of durability.

 

I'm considering getting some more Breachers so that I can have a squad of 5-6 sitting on an objective. They will probably help out against the friend's Tyranids soaking up charges and so on. 

 

Destroyers I haven't decided. Without the Core keyword Plasma Culverin Destroyers will be a bit scary to field. the video suggests taking Grav Cannons to avoid toasting your own servitors.

 

I am wondering about leaning more on the Skitarii part of my army but I think I will still have a role for my Kataphrons.

[Magos Guilderius Davvarel]

Breachers with Genetors Holy Order can gain auto-wound (initial) on melee 6s, or even more durability (advanced) by ignoring 1W on 6s. They seem to be pretty good at keeping objectives that way

 

And with Advanced Logi, Kataphrons gain ignore cover when ranged ATKs. I bet it'd be pretty decent on destroyers.

 

Still, more encline to go Breachers, extra-durability never hurts they say

Edited June 14, 2021 by Magos Guilderius Davvarel

[brother_b]

100% yes. I love the models, and love the lore.

 

Also, I believe breachers are great objective holders that can be very hard to shift. They also take up a lot of physical space on the game table and can zone/screen out areas quite effectively.

 

They are harder to buff now, but can benefit from canticles which is nice.

[nagashnee]

5 Breaches with 2 torsio 3 haywire guns have served me well as Mars, the 1 re roll is perfect for the 2 torsios and you just roll onto a obj and blast away all game. Solid shooting, solid combat and great staying power.

[TrawlingCleaner]

As I'm leaning into Ryza to make the most of the trait and the strategem, I've built 6 Kataphron Destroyers with Plasma. The only issue is, as others have pointed out, the lack of rerolls especially with overcharged plasma is an issue. I think that I'll have to just take the mortal wounds on the chin  when I need str8 and dmg3, which I can't see happening all that often to be honest. Str7 and dmg2 with the Plasma Specialists strat should do the trick most of the time.

 

I've got another 3 Kataphrons to build which will definitely be Breachers, I'll also probably add another 3 to the Breachers at a later date and really make use of the +1 to Wound in combat

[Plague _Lord]

I'm going down the route of 3 plasma destroyers and 3 breachers to accompany them. I'm aiming at either ryza or mars for my FW and both units benefit from either.

[Charlo]

I love breachers. A big block of them are super nasty and very versatile! Vehicles absolutely beware. They can take a silly amount of punishment and be healed.

[Malakithe]

Going mainly Skitarii units but im thinking of using leftover points for some Breachers. All Arc + Hydraulic. They are fine just hanging out on their own

[Son of Sacrifice]

I would like to run more, but I find them to be such a hideous kit to build, it puts me off.

[brother_b]

I would like to run more, but I find them to be such a hideous kit to build, it puts me off.

This statement holds true for most of the Admech range! I know what you're talking about, I just build 4 serberys raiders and ugh, they're tough for a fumble fingered guy like me.

[Focslain]

I would like to run more, but I find them to be such a hideous kit to build, it puts me off.

 

I just don't like the look of them. That's why I got the 3rd party alternates. Just look around for something that seems easier to build and uses a 60mm base and your good.