WARMASTER_ Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I’m super excited to see the new models now after reading the leak it all sounds awesome! really hope they have that gothic knight in space feel again! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 That launch box sound a bit underwhelming, hoping for a least cool a new special edition cover for the supplement. If I get it I'll try selling the redemptor to mitigate the cost as I already have a venerable dread, a chaplain dread and a leviathan in my Black Templars army Also question for Valdrak do you know the exact content of the combat patrol box? also is there any models that are exclusive to the launch box? thanks. Hold up. Are BT fans already unhappy with their releases? The Redemptor could have unique BT upgrades or options, can't be written off yet. And it's a fantastic unit anyway. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mattias Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) Oh boy I better finish some of these lingering painting projects... got a feeling I'll be mighty busy from September onwards! Edited August 14, 2021 by Marshal Mattias RedFox and Brother Carpenter 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I think thats the reason they are putting a generic kit in the box, so they can show off the new upgrade spure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
excelite Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 That launch box sound a bit underwhelming, hoping for a least cool a new special edition cover for the supplement. If I get it I'll try selling the redemptor to mitigate the cost as I already have a venerable dread, a chaplain dread and a leviathan in my Black Templars army Also question for Valdrak do you know the exact content of the combat patrol box? also is there any models that are exclusive to the launch box? thanks. Hold up. Are BT fans already unhappy with their releases? The Redemptor could have unique BT upgrades or options, can't be written off yet. And it's a fantastic unit anyway. Not unhappy, just trying to get the most bang for the buck ;) RedFox 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Okay so I cannot post images but I can confirm the box has 13 models inside: x1 Marhsal x1 Redemptor x1 Emperors Champion x1 Crusader Squad (6 Initiates and 4 Neophytes) That's pretty terrible if that's the launch box Why are we getting a redemptor and no sword brethren? Sisters and orks got all new sculpts. Combat Patrol apparently has the Sword Brethren. I really hope it’s the other way round… if not I’ll wait for the cp box Yeah, this one is hard to believe. I think Deathwatch are the only marine combat patrol without a vehicle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) The DA box has a redemptor and no vehicle. Edited August 15, 2021 by SirJyo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I'm happy with the Redemptor being in there, as I don't own one - hopefully there's not an Emperor's Champion in the Combat Patrol, so I can double up with the launch box/CP to get a flying start. But with a dedicated SB, Crusader Squad kit we can lay to rest the rumour of GW not doing chapter specific units. That wasn't a rumour, that was a statement direct from GW. It's just that their priorities have clearly changed since c. 2017, when they told us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Ork launch box has 2 characters, 10 boyz and 3 cavalries. Don't really provide much more models than a combat patrol box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 The DA box has a redemptor and no vehicle. I consider dreadnoughts to be vehicles; they used to have an armor value. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punchomatic Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Redemptors are baller. I’ll be happy either way. I hope it’s custom but I doubt it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 The DA box has a redemptor and no vehicle. I consider dreadnoughts to be vehicles; they used to have an armor value. They also have the vehicle keyword to boot, go figure. Anyway I wonder how units like assault intercessors and bladeguard will fit alongside SB and crusader squads. I think its a given that the SB and new crusaders will be primaris and not firstborn. Gederas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urkh Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) Even though I don't really do primaris now, I know at some point I will. I will most likely buy this box just to support black templars, even if the minis sit for a long time. But on the bright side, since I dont have primaris, everything in the box is going to be new for my! Edited August 15, 2021 by Urkh BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I'd guess that Bladeguard will gain SWORD BRETHREN keyword. It will be interesting to see if they go only Crusader squads, but with a lot of options so you can effectively make Intercessor and Assault Intercessor squads with them or if they keep them separate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I'd guess that Bladeguard will gain SWORD BRETHREN keyword. It will be interesting to see if they go only Crusader squads, but with a lot of options so you can effectively make Intercessor and Assault Intercessor squads with them or if they keep them separate. I could see that, a combined entry then the BT thing of melee weapon stacking like the OG crusader squad. Sitting on my x10 indomnitus assault intercessors as a result of uncertainty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Chances are you'll be able to just use the standard intercessors you already have as Crusaders in a Crusader squad. Apparently they come with the same stock weapons, so it really wouldn't matter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Just imagine S6 BGV and Helbretch slicing and dicing ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) "Sword brethen" keyword may work in the way like "Inner circle", to grant some units extra buffs. Edited August 15, 2021 by Tokugawa Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I'd guess that Bladeguard will gain SWORD BRETHREN keyword. It will be interesting to see if they go only Crusader squads, but with a lot of options so you can effectively make Intercessor and Assault Intercessor squads with them or if they keep them separate. I could see that, a combined entry then the BT thing of melee weapon stacking like the OG crusader squad. Sitting on my x10 indomnitus assault intercessors as a result of uncertainty. Yeah, I have my six Bladeguard and 20 assault intercessors sitting around... I guess this release will finally reveal what exactly becomes of them :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I just hope everything is available on its own eventually. Getting another a redemptor with the launch box, is absolutely fine. I doubt it will have new game play options, but i hope that rumored vehicle upgrade sprue will at least let us bling it up differently. Combat patrol? Fine too, just hope it isn't mostly filled with units i already have, as well Mmmmm Napalm 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) Realising what most of you have already realised, Seneschal is French for Marshal?Yeh both traditionally mean Noble or Royal “Advisor”I find it odd that the French don't use Marshal, when it's a French rank. Unless other chapters captains are called Marshals in French and Seneschal is used to differentiate Black Templars? Any French players able to help? Edited August 15, 2021 by Brother Adelard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 You guys are reading too much into senescal, it's a Castelan or Lt. WARMASTER_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Marshal* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Was hoping to use my existing assault intercessors as crusaders, but as the squad likely requires neophytes that only come in the crusader box... Well played GW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Realising what most of you have already realised, Seneschal is French for Marshal?Yeh both traditionally mean Noble or Royal “Advisor”I find it odd that the French don't use Marshal, when it's a French rank. Unless other chapters captains are called Marshals in French and Seneschal is used to differentiate Black Templars? Any French players able to help? Captains are know as "Capitaine" in French (before English names for units became the weird new norm for all languages). And as mentioned, Seneshal/Seneschal is supposed to be Marshal: I got a little mixed up in my translations. Marshal Loss and Sword Brother Adelard 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/29/#findComment-5730689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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