WARMASTER_ Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 So much speculation around the Redemptor. I do not expect anything for it. I would not mind being wrong tho. I wanna have a look at the Crusader and Sword Bros sprues. Want to see the options, and bling. Couldn’t agree more with this! Especially looking forward to seeing the dual SB and Marshall kit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Six Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Repent brothers, for our time is soon. (Dang I'm excited for some more reveals) Trignama and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freypal Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I hope there is something from the black library to go along with this release. Would love some more BT centric novels to read. 8Six 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I hope they bring back Sigismund. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I hope they bring back Sigismund. How would they do that? A Legion of the Damned™️ "The First Champion"? CastellanDeMolay 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 He could be encased in the redemptor armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 No templargdt, painting.for.my.sanity, CastellanDeMolay and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 He could be encased in the redemptor armor. Holy :cuss, can we all just take a second and imagine what a "Sigismund" class redemptor would be like??? I think that is my new wildest dream. Nicknamed 'Siggie the Redeemer' the newest Redemptor dreadnought is home to the remains of, perhaps, the Black Templar's most iconic and pious historical figure. Once feared by all famous Heretic characters, the reborn Sigismund burns twice as hot with the fires of devotion and wrath of the God-Emperor. Where he once sought glory by slaying mighty commanders, his new mechanical form bears an even greater appetite. He scours the battlefield looking for the largest vehicles and fortifications to destroy. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Siggie dread would be the awesomest dread to ever dread. But it would also take away from his legend. Siggy is to be rembered as THE champion, not a contender with Bjorn, so the Signaught is consigned to what if territory CastellanDeMolay, Brother Chaplain Ryld and templargdt 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Alright, that's fair. He's an amazing warrior. He's earned his peace. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 On the topic of rumours though. I remember someone saying that the EC would be providing a buff. Could someone please remind me where that was mentioned as I forget the source. I was looking at the new EC model again, as I often find myself doing, and it crosses my mind that this looks quite like GW is treating it as our unique version of a 'primaris lieutenant'. I mean in terms of model detail and decadence. I also realised that HM Helbrecht Plays the role of a CM/Captain in providing hit re-rolls. In turn it would be quite fitting that the EC could fill the role of lieutenant and provide a re-roll wounds aura. It would complete the package and it would make sense as in the SoB releases GW did the same thing with the new Palatine role. It could also make quite good sense on his ability to rally the troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 On the topic of rumours though. I remember someone saying that the EC would be providing a buff. Could someone please remind me where that was mentioned as I forget the source. I was looking at the new EC model again, as I often find myself doing, and it crosses my mind that this looks quite like GW is treating it as our unique version of a 'primaris lieutenant'. I mean in terms of model detail and decadence. I also realised that HM Helbrecht Plays the role of a CM/Captain in providing hit re-rolls. In turn it would be quite fitting that the EC could fill the role of lieutenant and provide a re-roll wounds aura. It would complete the package and it would make sense as in the SoB releases GW did the same thing with the new Palatine role. It could also make quite good sense on his ability to rally the troops. The aura invuln save was mentioned in some Reddit thread that someone who claimed to be a GW employee was spoiling things in order to prove he was a GW employee. There's nothing "official" about it so take it with a pinch. I really hope it's not an aura invuln save. My personal hope is that the EC is an absolute character-kililng beatstick, possibly something where like "6's to wound cause mortal wounds in addition to normal damage", or the Black Sword ignores invuln saves. Following on the heels of more recent paradigms, a design path might be to turn off enemy aura's within some range. CastellanDeMolay 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brethren Durion Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 If the black Sword ignore invulnerable save it would be amazing ! And for Sigismund there's a lore youtuber guy who said that something was teased in the siege of terra book. Probably something to make him come back because he is far too important for the imperium, maybe the emperor's champion get a part of Sigismund skill ? Or maybe instead of having Dorn as a primarch/warlord later, we will get a ressurected Sigismund. Especialy since one of the black sword is named "WE ARE RETURNED" or something like this. CastellanDeMolay and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 The Champion is in effect the avatar of Sigismund, that's his route back, not a dreadnought. Gederas and CastellanDeMolay 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I would love to have a rule for the Black Sword which is ignoring rules which ignore damgage. So that we dont use 3 phases (we just have 2 to deal damage) to kill things like Ghazhkull and C-Tan etc... Or we get lot of Mortal wound mechanics like the holy grenade in the end of the movement phase to deal with them above and the emperors champion can ignore Invulves. Khornestar, SirJyo, Gederas and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastellanDeMolay Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 If the black Sword ignore invulnerable save it would be amazing ! And for Sigismund there's a lore youtuber guy who said that something was teased in the siege of terra book. Probably something to make him come back because he is far too important for the imperium, maybe the emperor's champion get a part of Sigismund skill ? Or maybe instead of having Dorn as a primarch/warlord later, we will get a ressurected Sigismund. Especialy since one of the black sword is named "WE ARE RETURNED" or something like this. Maybe the Eldar will switch a gem on his armour with one of their Soulstones to create the first human pheonix lord? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Phoenix Lords have basic marine stats… so nah. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Ah yeah, that's right. Forgot it was specified already that it was invuln save aura. Does seem a little strange for an EC. I could think of more suitable buffs for him for sure. Back on the topic of Sigismund returning. I wonder if many of you have listened to Baldemort's Emperor's Champion video? It's fantastic if you haven't. Now, disclaimer first, it is not official/canon. However, Baldemort does know a lot of lore and understands many of the paradigms and mechanics of the 40K universe. In his story he mentions the fact that there is a rare occurrence with gene-seed transplantation that a recipient will inherit the appearance of their predecessor and become their reincarnation. They don't retain any of their memories of course but they have all the same skills and traits as their predecessor. Now, I don't know if Baldemort has gotten this piece of fluff from somewhere but when I heard it I was really inspired and I totally bought into the idea. Perhaps this could be how we see Sigismund return. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Sigismund is not coming back. Loretubers are just looking for clicks and any theories from people in the know are just BS. Dosjetka, Marshal Loss, WARMASTER_ and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brethren Durion Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Ah yeah, that's right. Forgot it was specified already that it was invuln save aura. Does seem a little strange for an EC. I could think of more suitable buffs for him for sure. Back on the topic of Sigismund returning. I wonder if many of you have listened to Baldemort's Emperor's Champion video? It's fantastic if you haven't. Now, disclaimer first, it is not official/canon. However, Baldemort does know a lot of lore and understands many of the paradigms and mechanics of the 40K universe. In his story he mentions the fact that there is a rare occurrence with gene-seed transplantation that a recipient will inherit the appearance of their predecessor and become their reincarnation. They don't retain any of their memories of course but they have all the same skills and traits as their predecessor. Now, I don't know if Baldemort has gotten this piece of fluff from somewhere but when I heard it I was really inspired and I totally bought into the idea. Perhaps this could be how we see Sigismund return. Would be amazing and we would get the last firstborn Space Marine ! BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Arthur Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I would love to have a rule for the Black Sword which is ignoring rules which ignore damgage. So that we dont use 3 phases (we just have 2 to deal damage) to kill things like Ghazhkull and C-Tan etc... Or we get lot of Mortal wound mechanics like the holy grenade in the end of the movement phase to deal with them above and the emperors champion can ignore Invulves. I would love that rule. A friend of mine proxied the new ork named character on the great white squig and his reducing damage ability was so incredibly annoying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brethren Durion Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Leaks on 4chan talked about alot of mortal wounds from Primaris Crusader Squad... But since it's 4chan it need to be taken with ALOT of salt ! Marshal Mattias 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Cant believe Im excited for a damn Monday, they were winking and mentioning Sword Brethren so hopefully they show some miniatures of them tomorrow. I think what they're doing is showcasing the contents for the launchbox so when its over they will announce it for pre order and once November arrives they will start previewing the stuff not on the box like Grimaldus and Helbrecht and some more info on the rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I would love to have a rule for the Black Sword which is ignoring rules which ignore damgage. So that we dont use 3 phases (we just have 2 to deal damage) to kill things like Ghazhkull and C-Tan etc... Or we get lot of Mortal wound mechanics like the holy grenade in the end of the movement phase to deal with them above and the emperors champion can ignore Invulves. I would love that rule. A friend of mine proxied the new ork named character on the great white squig and his reducing damage ability was so incredibly annoying. the rule i mentioned would not ignore all of that. It would ignore FnP or the abilitie from Ghazgkhull and Ctan for ignoring wounds. The new Ork character has fnp which would be ignored but not the damage characterstic modifier like the dreadknought have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Given that launch box is rumored to hold crusaders and not sword brethren... well i dunno, I hope they reveal something today at least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/37/#findComment-5733738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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