General Strike Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Subtlety isn't easy to pick up through text, but I would read more into what Sete is saying than face value, which it seems like some peeps are doing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5719855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayOkuz Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Not Scout but "Neophytes" are coming, which is a special unit that is designet for Black Templars, it seems (I put my 10 cent on it) SO no old squats, but new models (probably phobos armored new designed neopytes) are joining our crusade. BLACK BLΠFLY and General Strike 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5719857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Iono guys, a Crusader Squad is nothing more than a bog standard troop unit for BT. I haven't seen or read any lore that indicates a scout now is any different than a scout that is going to turn primaris sub a few extra implants while they are a scout. BT train scouts mixed in with their fully fledged battle brothers, which now CAN include primaris marines. Aesthetically, you may not be pleased with it, but I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts this will be the squad configuration. Now whether or not those neophytes will get new models, I'm not sure, but I doubt we will EVER see a unit called "primaris scouts" or an equivalent, ever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5719869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old-Four-Arms Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) Both Sete and Chapter Master Valrak mentioned new "scout-like" Neophyte models. I'm interpreting Valrak's cryptic reply to an earlier post as these models having even more stripped-down armor than Phobos (bare arms ?) : Wait until you see the Templar models, you will loose your mind! Only if the new neophytes have slashed sleeves (retro-scout vibe) They have all their arms showing Edited July 14, 2021 by Old-Four-Arms Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5719871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Also, loin cloths Brother Carpenter 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5719873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I didn't believe the old squat Scouts will be joining Primaris units two pages ago, and I still don't believe it now lol The only person saying that is you. We've repeatedly said new scout models. As in new sculpts of neophyte battle brothers. RolandTHTG and Sete 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5719874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayOkuz Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Also, loin cloths Hell yea brother.. Holy Loin Cloth... AVE IMPERATOR REX Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5719901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I wonder how would the statline of "primaris neophyte" look like. If it only have w1 and cost higher than 13pts/model, it would fell in the category of "very uncompetitive", and waste the new-designed, fine-detailed model kits. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) I want to know the costumization of the Crusader Squads, that my burning question. I'm surely starting with a BT Kill Team. And new lore, artwork aswell. Living the dream. Edited July 14, 2021 by Sete Alby the Slayer, Mmmmm Napalm, Trignama and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I wonder how would the statline of "primaris neophyte" look like. If it only have w1 and cost higher than 13pts/model, it would fell in the category of "very uncompetitive", and waste the new-designed, fine-detailed model kits. I’d guess 2 wounds, 4+ save Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I wonder how would the statline of "primaris neophyte" look like. If it only have w1 and cost higher than 13pts/model, it would fell in the category of "very uncompetitive", and waste the new-designed, fine-detailed model kits. Yeah thats been the issue our neophytes have had since 4th-5th ed, we pay their full price but they cant infiltrate, we'll see if they will fix that discrepancy. I personally doubt neophytes will get two wounds because they arent full Astartes so the distinction should be their number of wounds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I think it should be to the armour save, or perhaps to the ws/bs. General Strike 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I reckon neos will have the current statline. I dont know about rules, but its what makes sense to me. Trignama 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I reckon neos will have the current statline. I dont know about rules, but its what makes sense to me. I'd agree to this, I don't see much changing in the way of the statline, and if our crusaders are taking the primaris road, well they'll be costed AT LEAST the same as an assault intercessor per model. So, maybe adding a scout to the primaris unit would be less of an issue with points, aesthetically though I agree with the majority, a new model would be appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I didn't believe the old squat Scouts will be joining Primaris units two pages ago, and I still don't believe it now lol you should believe the rumors. CM Valrak and Sete have been correct to 100 percent if you look back last 12-18 month. I would never believe this would be released but if they both tease it then I will believe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I didn't believe the old squat Scouts will be joining Primaris units two pages ago, and I still don't believe it now lol you should believe the rumors. CM Valrak and Sete have been correct to 100 percent if you look back last 12-18 month. I would never believe this would be released but if they both tease it then I will believe. But they never said this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mattias Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Please, can we move on? There's an obvious miscommunication and it simply doesn't matter who-said/he-said/she-said. Let's return to the topic at hand. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) But they never said this.They did. At any rate Sword brethren with combi weapons, crusaders with flamers, neophytes that are sleeveless with loincloths. What I wanna know is, is what would we find on a new vehicle sprue? Edited July 16, 2021 by Reinhard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 i reckon ishagus guess is correct and it'll be something to make a repulsor into a repulsor crusader with slightly higher capacity to support said squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 but then we need a rule like -1dmg ( blessed hull or something). Even then with all that 3+d3 dmg weapons you cant play transports. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 But they never said this.They did. At any rate Sword brethren with combi weapons, crusaders with flamers, neophytes that are sleeveless with loincloths. What I wanna know is, is what would we find on a new vehicle spruce? They said "something similar" to current Neophytes. Not the same as the actual current neophytes. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) Veichle sprue, besides bling, I reckon weapon options. I hope we have dreadnaught bling Edited July 16, 2021 by Sete Kheotour, Vesalius and Trignama 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Warhammer Community page and Warhammer T.V. dropped our teaser video again today, could be a sign we are going to hear a bit more about the release soon. Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I am officially on hype, after an outing today. Urge to crusade intensifies! Still get the chills watching that teaser. Trignama 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Are we not getting a regular upgrade sprue for infantry? The old one is nice, but kinda expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/4/#findComment-5720555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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