Schurge Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) Well, I've already bought a bunch of terminators so I'm just going to double down on them. Hopefully they are still viable in pick up games despite what Goonhammer believes. 4 Baby Carriers and 15 terminators. Edited August 7, 2021 by Schurge Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetcurse Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Am I wrong to think terminators are like 10 points too expensive compared to Strikes? Bit of both, terminators are slightly over costed but strikes are definitely under costed. Yes, after thinking about it a little I had the same thought. Terminators are a little expensive but mostly they look and because strikes are so cheap. The internal balance would have been better if strikes were 2A instead of 3. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywrath Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) Let's talk list building for a moment. It seems to me, with the brotherhoods, running double patrol might be the way to go, on top of draigo. For flexibility of psychic powers. Something like this.. thoughts? Patrol 1: Kaldor Librarian Strike Squad x5 Strike Squad x5 Apothecary NDK NDK Patrol 2 (Rapiers) GMNDK Purifier x 10 Paladin x 10 Rhino Ok, it needs formatting as I'm typing this out on phone, but you get the idea. Also some character has the double obsec aura. Edited August 7, 2021 by Skywrath Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomeo Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Personally until I have dex in hand can't comment on lists Icosiel and Skywrath 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimlock Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Am I wrong to think terminators are like 10 points too expensive compared to Strikes? Bit of both, terminators are slightly over costed but strikes are definitely under costed.Yes, after thinking about it a little I had the same thought. Terminators are a little expensive but mostly they look and because strikes are so cheap. The internal balance would have been better if strikes were 2A instead of 3. Don’t ask for nerds lol, be happy with what good stuff we have! techsoldaten 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Let's talk list building for a moment. It seems to me, with the brotherhoods, running double patrol might be the way to go, on top of draigo. For flexibility of psychic powers. Something like this.. thoughts? You don't have troops in second patrol. I think, terminators are plain better than paladins right now, especially if you take rapriers. Keep in mind, that neither paladins no purifiers benifit from brotherhood strats and casts. Purifiers are better for strat purproses, when they are in 10-men squads, but in 5-man they will cast purifying flame twice for 3 additional mws. Skywrath 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywrath Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Let's talk list building for a moment. It seems to me, with the brotherhoods, running double patrol might be the way to go, on top of draigo. For flexibility of psychic powers. Something like this.. thoughts? You don't have troops in second patrol. I think, terminators are plain better than paladins right now, especially if you take rapriers. Keep in mind, that neither paladins no purifiers benifit from brotherhood strats and casts. Purifiers are better for strat purproses, when they are in 10-men squads, but in 5-man they will cast purifying flame twice for 3 additional mws. Ah, fair call, fair call! So just put a 10m terminator brick instead of the paladins, however we still would want at least 1 x 5 paladin for the swiss army knife utility. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Does anyone ever explain why the Grand Master and Brother Captian MUST be from different Brotherhoods? Makes absolutley no sense other than chose one or the other not both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetcurse Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Am I wrong to think terminators are like 10 points too expensive compared to Strikes? Bit of both, terminators are slightly over costed but strikes are definitely under costed.Yes, after thinking about it a little I had the same thought. Terminators are a little expensive but mostly they look and because strikes are so cheap. The internal balance would have been better if strikes were 2A instead of 3.Don’t ask for nerds lol, be happy with what good stuff we have! Seems that a more accurate internal balance would have been something like 24/6 point strikes and about 32-6 point terminators. The points between these two units and even between terms and paladins is WHACK. Like how do they not see that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimlock Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Am I wrong to think terminators are like 10 points too expensive compared to Strikes? Bit of both, terminators are slightly over costed but strikes are definitely under costed.Yes, after thinking about it a little I had the same thought. Terminators are a little expensive but mostly they look and because strikes are so cheap. The internal balance would have been better if strikes were 2A instead of 3.Don’t ask for nerds lol, be happy with what good stuff we have!Seems that a more accurate internal balance would have been something like 24/6 point strikes and about 32-6 point terminators. The points between these two units and even between terms and paladins is WHACK. Like how do they not see that? Because I am not about doom and gloom. I have been looking at some of the combos and how the abilities work and I am actually kind of like what I am seeing. Points meh, they change all of the time. Please don’t forget that the CA 2021 MKII gave us new points values without a release on a codex. I would be curious what the points were before. What I can’t believe is that some are asking for a nerf before the book is even out lol. Why worry about it work around it and wait to see what balance moves are made. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomeo Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Does anyone ever explain why the Grand Master and Brother Captian MUST be from different Brotherhoods? Makes absolutley no sense other than chose one or the other not both. My understanding is it is 0-1 grand master and 0-1 brotherhood captain per brotherhood. And the reason for that is the lore. WAR 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Does anyone ever explain why the Grand Master and Brother Captian MUST be from different Brotherhoods? Makes absolutley no sense other than chose one or the other not both. My understanding is it is 0-1 grand master and 0-1 brotherhood captain per brotherhood. And the reason for that is the lore. I understand that but reviewers are making it out to sound like your Grand Master can be from Brotherhood "X" and if you take a Brother Captain, he has to be from any Brotherhood but "X" which means we are using 2 brotherhoods for list building? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Does anyone ever explain why the Grand Master and Brother Captian MUST be from different Brotherhoods? Makes absolutley no sense other than chose one or the other not both. My understanding is it is 0-1 grand master and 0-1 brotherhood captain per brotherhood. And the reason for that is the lore. I understand that but reviewers are making it out to sound like your Grand Master can be from Brotherhood "X" and if you take a Brother Captain, he has to be from any Brotherhood but "X" which means we are using 2 brotherhoods for list building? The reviews I've seen are saying you choose a Brotherhood key word per detatchment and can have up to one each of Grand Master and Brother Captain per detachment. You can then have additionla Grand Master and Brother Captain in a second detachment bu then they'd have to be a different Brotherhood. WAR 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Ok I heard it on a review last night and was misreading it in one of the reviews due to be overly tired Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I can't remember which one it was, but one of the reviewers definitely said it. They are wrong though i think. WAR 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_149 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Hi. I have the Codex and it says the following; You can include a maximum of one Grand Master model and on Brother Captain model in each detachment in your army. Each Grand Master model in your army must be from a different brotherhood Each Brother Captain model in your army must be from a different brotherhood I hope that helps, any other questions let me know :) WAR 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimlock Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Hi. I have the Codex and it says the following; You can include a maximum of one Grand Master model and on Brother Captain model in each detachment in your army. Each Grand Master model in your army must be from a different brotherhood Each Brother Captain model in your army must be from a different brotherhood I hope that helps, any other questions let me know :) So the way I am reading this if you have a single battalion you can add 1 captain and 1 GM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetcurse Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Hi. I have the Codex and it says the following; You can include a maximum of one Grand Master model and on Brother Captain model in each detachment in your army. Each Grand Master model in your army must be from a different brotherhood Each Brother Captain model in your army must be from a different brotherhood I hope that helps, any other questions let me know :) Matt, can you clarify the purgation squads please? Keep reading contradictory info on how many weapons per 10 they can have. Also, how do you have a book so early? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Matt, can you clarify the purgation squads please? Keep reading contradictory info on how many weapons per 10 they can have. Also, how do you have a book so early? Confirmed to be up to 4. WAR 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetcurse Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Matt, can you clarify the purgation squads please? Keep reading contradictory info on how many weapons per 10 they can have. Also, how do you have a book so early? Confirmed to be up to 4. Good, 8 would have been too much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichar Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 Can anyone verify the range of the Purifying Flame psychic power? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Can anyone verify the range of the Purifying Flame psychic power? It's 9". Can't use out of deep strike (because it is more than 9"), but straight up 3 MWs is very strong. Unlike previous iteration, you can just throw smites while on the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icosiel Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I keep wondering what the ability of the falchions is. Is it +1 attack if the model is equipped with two, or +1 attack for each falchion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuittzz Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 It's +1 attack for the pair. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetcurse Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 But I think you get +1 even with one as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371129-grey-knight-9th-edition-codex-rumors/page/6/#findComment-5727775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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