The Woodsman Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Hey all. Was persouing 40K Stats and came accross the results for the IWTS Open, a 35-player event that happenned in August. Not a huge event, nor I think a major infliuence on the global meta... but still I thought it was a cool list. The guy took fourth place with a IG/IK soup... and check this its basically a Lambdan Lions Tempestus Battalion and an Armiger Warglaive Super-Heavy detachments. Here's the list, I really do think it is interesting (and really, really cool) to see this kind of list do well. 4th Place Jason Wells - IWTS Open ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [81 PL, 1,590pts, 11CP] +++ Configuration +Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)Detachment Command CostRegimental Doctrine: 133rd Lambdan Lions+ Stratagems +Imperial Commander's Armoury [-1CP]: 1 additional Heirloom of Conquest+ Agents of the Imperium +Callidus Assassin [5 PL, 100pts]: Neural Shredder, Phase Sword, Poison Blades+ HQ +Tempestor Prime [3 PL, 45pts]: Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Relic (133rd Lambdan Lions): Refractor Field Generator, Tempestus Command Rod, Warlord, WT (133rd Lambdan Lions): Keys to the ArmouryTempestor Prime [3 PL, 55pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Power fist, Relic: The Laurels of Command, Tempestus Command Rod+ Troops +Militarum Tempestus Scions [5 PL, 130pts]. 5x Scion: 5x Frag & Krak grenades, 5x Hot-shot Lasgun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma gun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma gun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma gun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma gun. Tempestor: Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma pistolMilitarum Tempestus Scions [5 PL, 130pts]. 5x Scion: 5x Frag & Krak grenades, 5x Hot-shot Lasgun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma gun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma gun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma gun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma gun. Tempestor: Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma pistolMilitarum Tempestus Scions [5 PL, 130pts]. 5x Scion: 5x Frag & Krak grenades, 5x Hot-shot Lasgun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Meltagun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Meltagun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Meltagun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Meltagun. Tempestor: Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma pistolMilitarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 55pts]. 2x Scion: 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Hot-shot Lasgun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Hot-shot Volley Gun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Hot-shot Volley Gun. Tempestor: Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma pistolMilitarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 55pts]. 2x Scion: 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Hot-shot Lasgun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Hot-shot Volley Gun. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Frag & Krak grenades, Hot-shot Volley Gun. Tempestor: Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma pistol+ Elites +Bullgryns [10 PL, 140pts]. Bullgryn: Brute Shield, Bullgryn Maul, Frag Bombs. Bullgryn: Brute Shield, Bullgryn Maul, Frag Bombs. Bullgryn: Brute Shield, Bullgryn Maul, Frag Bombs. Bullgryn Bone 'ead: Brute Shield, Bullgryn Maul, Frag BombsMilitarum Tempestus Command Squad [3 PL, 80pts]. Tempestus Scion: Frag & Krak grenades, Meltagun. Tempestus Scion: Frag & Krak grenades, Meltagun. Tempestus Scion: Frag & Krak grenades, Meltagun. Tempestus Scion: Frag & Krak grenades, MeltagunMilitarum Tempestus Command Squad [3 PL, 80pts]. Tempestus Scion: Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma gun. Tempestus Scion: Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma gun. Tempestus Scion: Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma gun. Tempestus Scion: Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma gun+ Flyer +Valkyries [7 PL, 120pts]. Valkyrie: 2x Multiple Rocket Pods, Multi-laser, Stat Damage (Gunships)Vendetta Gunship [12 PL, 210pts]: Vendetta Twin Lascannon. 2x Vendetta Twin Lascannons: 2x Vendetta Twin Lascannon+ Dedicated Transport +Taurox Prime [7 PL, 130pts]: Stat Damage (Taurox Prime), Taurox Gatling Cannon, Two AutocannonsTaurox Prime [7 PL, 130pts]: Stat Damage (Taurox Prime), Taurox Gatling Cannon, Two Autocannons++ Super-Heavy Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Imperial Knights) [21 PL, 405pts, -3CP] +++ Configuration +Detachment Command Cost [-3CP]Household Choice: House <Custom>, Household Tradition: Aggressive Persecution, Household Tradition: Glorified History, Household Traditions (Engine War), Questor Imperialis+ Lord of War +Armiger Warglaives [7 PL, 135pts]. Armiger Warglaive: Character (Knight Lance), Heavy Stubber, Reaper Chain-Cleaver, Thermal SpearArmiger Warglaives [7 PL, 135pts]. Armiger Warglaive: Heavy Stubber, Reaper Chain-Cleaver, Thermal SpearArmiger Warglaives [7 PL, 135pts]. Armiger Warglaive: Heavy Stubber, Reaper Chain-Cleaver, Thermal Spear++ Total: [102 PL, 1,995pts, 8CP] ++ Obviously the Armigers form a kind of aggressive vanguard, plus add in some heftier anti-tank. They especially draw fire away from the gunships and Tauroxs, and can hopefully help in pushing back the opponnent and opening up some spots for the Deep Striking units to come down. I don't know what he came up against, but #1 and #3 are your classic Raider-spam, combined arms Drukhari and Terminator and Deamon Engine-heavy DG with plenty of Poxwalkers for screening, objectives and Spread the Sikness. #2 is Space Wolves, so not as hot as Drukhari, Admech, Sisters or DG but the list is pretty savage with all those Bladeguard and fast combat units. What do you guys think? walter h 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371468-interesting-4th-place-list-iwts-open/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Warglaives are a good combo for Guard, especially Scions. Not surprised this did well in the hands of a presumably good player. I would probably drop the fliers and add another Warglaive and more troops personally. But nice to see a Guard list do well. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371468-interesting-4th-place-list-iwts-open/#findComment-5735716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commisar Necros Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 This looks exciting. I could definitaly see it doing well. I dont really see why the taurox are there rather than 2 more valkyries. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371468-interesting-4th-place-list-iwts-open/#findComment-5735870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Woodsman Posted August 28, 2021 Author Share Posted August 28, 2021 IMO its that the Taurox can hold objectives. walter h and Commisar Necros 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371468-interesting-4th-place-list-iwts-open/#findComment-5735907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commisar Necros Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Ya that's pretty obvious didn't think about that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371468-interesting-4th-place-list-iwts-open/#findComment-5735914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Woodsman Posted August 28, 2021 Author Share Posted August 28, 2021 Looking at this week's Metawatch on WHC, top players seem to be focussing on objective/board control based secondary objectives, and of course the primary is all about objectives. The Taurox are pretty easy to hide too, they are pretty small and compact. Plus their firepower at 3+ BS isn't bad. Good anti-horde too with that loadout, that Scions can lack, though he's got a few hot-shots to fish for mortals. walter h 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371468-interesting-4th-place-list-iwts-open/#findComment-5735920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Well, it looks very straight forward to play. Honestly it needs more Ogryn ( ) And probably a Manticore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371468-interesting-4th-place-list-iwts-open/#findComment-5736030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Actually I think would drop the Bullgryns for two small units of Crusaders to do actions with. Just a bit cheaper and more mobile. I'd also potentially add anothe Warglaives for more forward pressure or a Helverin for backfield objective holding. The Manticore isn't that necessary, as the list has lots of deepstrike-capable special weapons, so LOS is not as much of a concern as in other locations lists. Plus, it would need another detachment and at that point you're looking at a fundamentally different army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371468-interesting-4th-place-list-iwts-open/#findComment-5736071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 some information: https://www.goonhammer.com/battle-report-a-deed-worthy-of-legend-5-0-performance-at-iwts-open/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371468-interesting-4th-place-list-iwts-open/#findComment-5736142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Woodsman Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 Nice tournament report. Very cool to see Guard finish 4th and take best Overall. And that game against the Space Wolves was close as... Sweet stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371468-interesting-4th-place-list-iwts-open/#findComment-5736522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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