Montford Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) As I mentioned in Nusphigor’s thread I am starting my first heretic 40K army and I am making it Alpha Legion. I have played against CSMs: mostly Death Guard, but never before as CSMs so I'm just looking for some advice for a new CSM player. This army is being started with second hand miniatures (all GW or FW- no 3rd party) and have kept the budget down so far per direction of the Wife That explains the abundance of heavy weapons models! I am going to list what I have. What I could really use is some guidance about what might work for an Alpha Legion army with what I have. I can also use some direction on what Units to pick up to better hone the army. Roster by model: (Mark III denotes a Horus Heresy space marine in Mark III armor which I will be using for Alpha Legion in 40K) Chaos Space Marine Mark III w/ Boltguns 11Chaos Space Marine Unassembled 9Chaos Space Marine w/ Boltguns 6Chaos Space Marine Chainsword & Bolt Pistol 4Chaos Space Marine Plasma Gun 1 Chaos Marine Sergeant Mk III 1Chaos Marine Sergeant Unassembled 1Chaos Marine Sergeant Power Axe & Plasma Pistol 1Havoc Mark III Missile Launcher 9Havoc Mark III Lascannon 8Havoc Autocannon 1 Chaos Lord Unassembled 1Terminator Chaos Lord 1Terminator SGT Combi Melta 1Terminator Combi Flamer 3Terminator Heavy Flamer 1 Greater Possessed Unassembled 2 Obliterators Unassembled 2 Raptors Needs stripping 1 Venom Crawler Unassembled 1 Forgeworld Weapon Kits (Early variants): Combi Melta 5Combi Flamer 5Combi Plasma 5Lascannon 1Plasma Cannon 1Heavy Bolter 1Multi Melta 1 What do you think works best for Alpha Legion with what I have? What Units or Characters/ HQs do you think would work best with what I've got? Thanks in advance Edited September 6, 2021 by Montford nusphigor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallarn Commander Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Alpha Legion Using Units Listed Above HQ • 1 Chaos Lord with jumppack and Shadeblade • 1 Chaos Sorcerer in Terminator Armor, Hydra's Wail, Prescience, Warptime, Mark of Tzeench TROOPS • 10 Chaos Marines, 2 lascannons • 10 Chaos Marines, Aspiring Champion with powerfist, 2 plasmaguns • 10 Chaos Marines, Aspiring Champion with powerfist, 2 plasmaguns ELITES • 5 magnetized Chaos Terminators (twin lightning claws today, some other combo tomorrow) • 2 Greater Possessed • 10 Fallen, various meltaguns or plasmaguns HEAVY SUPPORT • 5 Havocs, 4 lascannons • Venomcrawler • 2 Oblits Montgord, there are many lists you could develop these models into. And frankly any of the Chaos HQs could work with this list. This would run you 1,700 points and could work well in casual games. You can gain early board control by plopping a plasma CSM Squad onto a midfield objective using "Forward Operatives." Your lascannon Havocs and CSM hold backfield objectives while everyone else rushes to the midfield. On Turn 2 you plug gaps in your line by deep-striking your Termie Sorcerer, Terminators, and Oblits. Also move infantry Squads like your CSM around as needed using "Renascent Infiltration." You have about 300 points left over to add in other units. I'd focus on melee units like Daemon Engines, a Daemon Prince, Bezerkers, Warp Talons, Disco Lords, etc. This is, of course, just one list. There are infinite others. Good luck! Iron Father Ferrum 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/#findComment-5738632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Fallen? I think you mean chosen for those specials to stack. Fallen won't have any access to AL rules/ strats. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/#findComment-5738683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 Fallen? I think you mean chosen for those specials to stack. Fallen won't have any access to AL rules/ strats. Wow two Units that can do that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/#findComment-5739408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 Montford, there are many lists you could develop these models into. And frankly any of the Chaos HQs could work with this list. This would run you 1,700 points and could work well in casual games. You can gain early board control by plopping a plasma CSM Squad onto a midfield objective using "Forward Operatives." Your lascannon Havocs and CSM hold backfield objectives while everyone else rushes to the midfield. On Turn 2 you plug gaps in your line by deep-striking your Termie Sorcerer, Terminators, and Oblits. Also move infantry Squads like your CSM around as needed using "Renascent Infiltration." You have about 300 points left over to add in other units. I'd focus on melee units like Daemon Engines, a Daemon Prince, Bezerkers, Warp Talons, Disco Lords, etc. This is, of course, just one list. There are infinite others. Good luck! Thank you! This is the kind of direction I was looking for. What would you consider a good melee unit in this Legion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/#findComment-5739410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Berzerkers, purely because we can dramatically increase the change of a first-turn charge by using Forward Operatives to push them up the board early. Tallarn Commander and Montford 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/#findComment-5739412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 Question on Chosen: If I read this correctly every Chosen may be equipped with a melee weapon in addition to his Boltgun and Bolt Pistol? Therefore, for example, each Chosen model may have a chainsword, boltgun and bolt pistol? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/#findComment-5739711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 You trade pistol for the melee weapon, if memory serves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/#findComment-5739828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 You trade pistol for the melee weapon, if memory serves. I think they trade the melee weapon? Otherwise I must have been sleeping on dual melee chosen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/#findComment-5739885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 From what I can see in the Codex entry it looks like any Chosen can just take one weapon from the melee weapons list. Doesn't say they need to give up pistol or boltgun. Just wanted to verify I'd read that right. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/#findComment-5739925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nusphigor Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 post pics!!! i'd love to see updates in your army mate, i'm still stuck so looking at other brother's armies is always nice ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/#findComment-5741383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) post pics!!! i'd love to see updates in your army mate, i'm still stuck so looking at other brother's armies is always nice This is the paint scheme I am doing (not touched up yet to cover where I painted outside the lines) Jim, the Chaos Space Marine Edited September 14, 2021 by Montford Iron Father Ferrum, Dr_Ruminahui, nusphigor and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/#findComment-5741501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nusphigor Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 post pics!!! i'd love to see updates in your army mate, i'm still stuck so looking at other brother's armies is always nice This is the paint scheme I am doing (not touched up yet to cover where I painted outside the lines) Jim, the Chaos Space Marine That's a cool Jim. Which colours did you use? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/#findComment-5741506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 post pics!!! i'd love to see updates in your army mate, i'm still stuck so looking at other brother's armies is always nice This is the paint scheme I am doing (not touched up yet to cover where I painted outside the lines) Jim, the Chaos Space Marine That's a cool Jim. Which colours did you use? I followed this 'How I Paint Things' tutorial from Sonic Sledgehammer Studios. It went fairly quickly and came out looking pretty good. I also tried the greener option on another model but I prefer the bluer one, which is the one in the photo and the one he painted in the video. The only difference is, as my FLGS was out of McCragge Blue I used Ultramarine Blue from Army Painter. The other main colors are: -Sotek Green -Skink Blue -Drakenhof Nightshade nusphigor and Dr_Ruminahui 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371591-got-lots-of-models-now-i-need-to-build-an-army/#findComment-5741565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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