Valkyrion Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) Just for fun, and per faction, which is the oldest model that you can still buy direct from Games Workshop?* I start the game with Commander Dante https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Blood-Angels-Commander-Dante Celebrating his silver anniversary at the very least! * new Calgar or Abaddon or plastic Hive Tyrant etc don't count, only bonafide first issue models please! Finecast counts as long as its the same as the original. Edited September 17, 2021 by Valkyrion Helias_Tancred and Brother Lunkhead 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I'm going with a rather depressing 6-way tie for the Eldar: The Avatar of Khaine / Warp Spiders / Asurmen / Karandras / Fuegan / and 2 of these Warlocks, all of which date back to 1993. Ubiquitous1984, WrathOfTheLion, Firedrake Cordova and 11 others 14 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) I could be wrong but I think the spacewolf runepriest in terminator armor predates the jes goodwin character series (including dante and the phoenix lords)https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/Space-Wolves-Rune-Priest-in-Terminator-Armour Maybe the swooping hawks are actually older though.edit; Looked over it and cant find the age of that terminator, but in contrary what I thought the current swooping hawks are not the same as those predating the phoenix lords... those actually look better and more modern than the current ones.) Edited September 17, 2021 by TheMawr WrathOfTheLion, Valkyrion and Dark Shepherd 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old-Four-Arms Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 The Mk1 Thunder Armoured Space Marine : https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/Armour-Through-the-Ages ..which is in the 1991 catalogue (part 1) Firedrake Cordova, Dark Shepherd, TheMawr and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) Terminator Runepriest isn't that old, Power Armour Njal was the only Runepriest released just before 2nd ed. The metal Wolf Guard Terminators seem to have come out in a slightly later wave around 92 and didn't have any characters alongside them. http://www.solegends.com/citcat1992/cat1992p389wolfguard-02.htm The Terminator Runepriest first shows up in the 95 catalogue. http://www.solegends.com/citcat1995-6/cat19956p045-02.htm Oldest marine models are these servitors: http://www.solegends.com/citcat1992/cat1992p391spacewolves-02.htm Also from the first set of Space wolf releases but none of the actual Space Wolves are left. The Mk1 Thunder Armoured Space Marine : https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/Armour-Through-the-Ages ..which is in the 1991 catalogue (part 1) He's definitely one of the oldest you can buy but he's also always been a collectors figure without rules so is questionable as a 'unit in a faction'. Edited September 17, 2021 by Closet Skeleton Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaurdian31 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Khorne Berzerkers are pretty old. I think '98? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Khorne Berzerkers are pretty old. I think '98? Oldest multi part plastics I think, but positively young by comparison to some fellas who came in blisterpacks, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Oldest vehicle for a long time was Ork stuff but I think now is Eldar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Preacher with Chainsword is from 1997 I believe, which would make him the oldest for both Imperial Guard and Sisters of Battle. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I think the chaos bikes are a little bit older than the berzerkers ( there were older plastic berzerkers but they were of the one piece variety.)I think the oldest plastic still in rotation might be the old eldar jetbike... while the jetbike unit has been updated both the autarch on jetbike and shining spears still use that old late 90s plastic as their core. Halandaar and BitsHammer 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Berserkers are considerably older than Chaos Bikes but the loyalist bikes are older still. As mentioned above Eldar have VEhicles and characters locked down hard with a whole bunch of 1st Ed sculpts still in production! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Yeah, the Jetbike used for the Autarch and Shining Spears is the oldest plastic kit. Even the Vyper and Falcon predate the plastic Berserkers, and Chaos Bikers are quite a way after that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 As an eldar fan who wants to build an army, this thread made me sob into my morning cereal TheMawr, Viridia, Dark Shepherd and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 As an eldar fan who wants to build an army, this thread made me sob into my morning cereal You'll feel worse when you realize that all of the "newer" Aspect Warrior kits (aside from Howling Banshees) are still Failcast... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 As an eldar fan who wants to build an army, this thread made me sob into my morning cereal You'll feel worse when you realize that all of the "newer" Aspect Warrior kits (aside from Howling Banshees) are still Failcast... I'm going to "um, ahktually" here and point out that Dire Avengers are also Aspect Warriors and in plastic. Sword Brother Adelard and Blindhamster 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 If I recall correctly the Falcon and Vyper are still the original versions, which are some of the oldest plastic kits still available (and THE oldest kits of their size). aa.logan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 It is just so depressing. The falcon kits fee old when you build one. Soft details and insane mould lines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 It is just so depressing. The falcon kits fee old when you build one. Soft details and insane mould lines. On the flip side, I kinda feel like if they "remastered" the kit rather than completely remaking it (so took the sprues and cut new sharper molds for them in CAD) it'd be perfectly acceptable. The base design is great, it feels like it's just the age of the tooling that's the problem. The Vyper could maybe do with more work due to the exposed crew, but the Falcon would need surprisingly little work to be modernized. I agree they need new kits, just that they wouldn't necessarily need to be totally remade from the ground up. Sky Potato and Magos Takatus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) It is just so depressing. The falcon kits fee old when you build one. Soft details and insane mould lines. On the flip side, I kinda feel like if they "remastered" the kit rather than completely remaking it (so took the sprues and cut new sharper molds for them in CAD) it'd be perfectly acceptable. The base design is great, it feels like it's just the age of the tooling that's the problem. The Vyper could maybe do with more work due to the exposed crew, but the Falcon would need surprisingly little work to be modernized. I agree they need new kits, just that they wouldn't necessarily need to be totally remade from the ground up. I'd argue redoing the sprue and adding in more base options to the kit in gemeral would be nice. Eldar are supposed to have a massive tech lead on most of the races and seeing thay spun out further on the table would be nice. Edited September 19, 2021 by Fulkes Evil Eye 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 It is just so depressing. The falcon kits fee old when you build one. Soft details and insane mould lines.On the flip side, I kinda feel like if they "remastered" the kit rather than completely remaking it (so took the sprues and cut new sharper molds for them in CAD) it'd be perfectly acceptable. The base design is great, it feels like it's just the age of the tooling that's the problem. The Vyper could maybe do with more work due to the exposed crew, but the Falcon would need surprisingly little work to be modernized. I agree they need new kits, just that they wouldn't necessarily need to be totally remade from the ground up. I'd argue redoing the sprue and adding in more base options to the kit in gemeral would be nice. Eldar are supposed to have a massive tech lead on most of the races and seeing thay spun out further on the table would be nice. That's fair, more options would be cool. A vehicle I would like to see get a total remake is the Wave Serpent, specifically to bring the old Armorcast Wave Serpent design back. I absolutely love that design and I'd much rather see it getting a revamp than it being a Falcon variant. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5742980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa.logan Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 If I recall correctly the Falcon and Vyper are still the original versions, which are some of the oldest plastic kits still available (and THE oldest kits of their size). The Basilisk uses the updated Chimera hull but the original gun parts, which predate the Vyper by a year or two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5743463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just for fun, and per faction, which is the oldest model that you can still buy direct from Games Workshop?* I start the game with Commander Dante https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Blood-Angels-Commander-Dante Celebrating his silver anniversary at the very least! * new Calgar or Abaddon or plastic Hive Tyrant etc don't count, only bonafide first issue models please! Finecast counts as long as its the same as the original. is Dante still metal? If not does that count as being the oldest? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5743509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 We've already identified the oldest extant model courtesy of @Old-Four-Arms: The Mk1 Thunder Armoured Space Marine : https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/Armour-Through-the-Ages ..which is in the 1991 catalogue (part 1) ...unless I've missed where someone has identified an older model...? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5743513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 We've already identified the oldest extant model courtesy of @Old-Four-Arms: The Mk1 Thunder Armoured Space Marine : https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/Armour-Through-the-Ages ..which is in the 1991 catalogue (part 1) ...unless I've missed where someone has identified an older model...? OP suggested looking "per faction" so there are plenty more to find! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5743613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 Oldest tyranid? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/371726-the-oldest-extant-model/#findComment-5743627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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