Can we expect more gravis characters

[CCE1981]

It may be a short list, but it is complete, not all armor types need to be stand alone.

 

I totally agree that GW should condense units into the same datasheet. They keep going back and forth on Landspeeders and Predators.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

 

 

 

4 if you count Phobos armour, which has a focus I found weird since the units in such armour duplicate each other quite a lot.

 

The Gravis line definitely appears unfinished though. It's got Troops and Elites, has 2 types of Captain but feels a little more sparse.

 

Having said that, there isn't a Phobos Chaplain so maybe we won't see that in Gravis?

Gravis unfinished? Only when you talk about the HQ lineup:

 

HQ - Captain in Gravis Armor, Captain with Master-Crafted Heavy Bolt Rifle

 

Elite - Aggressors

 

Troops - Heavy Intercessors

 

Fast Attack - Inceptors

 

Heavy Support - Eradicators

 

What other specialists are needed? Librarian, Chaplain, Ancient are all that are really missing. Maybe a dedicated melee, but I would prefer not to have the bloat.

That's a pretty boring army, hopefully they do another close combat option. I can sorta understand not wanting the bloat but Marines have always felt that way.

is it though? 500-1500 points it could potentially be a pretty fun army.

 

Add in a gravis version of BGVs, and more devastator like fire support unit (or gravis hellblasters) and you can have a real nice 2000pt army fairly easily

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

 

 

 

4 if you count Phobos armour, which has a focus I found weird since the units in such armour duplicate each other quite a lot.

 

The Gravis line definitely appears unfinished though. It's got Troops and Elites, has 2 types of Captain but feels a little more sparse.

 

Having said that, there isn't a Phobos Chaplain so maybe we won't see that in Gravis?

Gravis unfinished? Only when you talk about the HQ lineup:

 

HQ - Captain in Gravis Armor, Captain with Master-Crafted Heavy Bolt Rifle

 

Elite - Aggressors

 

Troops - Heavy Intercessors

 

Fast Attack - Inceptors

 

Heavy Support - Eradicators

 

What other specialists are needed? Librarian, Chaplain, Ancient are all that are really missing. Maybe a dedicated melee, but I would prefer not to have the bloat.

That's a pretty boring army, hopefully they do another close combat option. I can sorta understand not wanting the bloat but Marines have always felt that way.

is it though? 500-1500 points it could potentially be a pretty fun army.

 

Add in a gravis version of BGVs, and more devastator like fire support unit (or gravis hellblasters) and you can have a real nice 2000pt army fairly easily with a repulsor or executioner

[Dark Shepherd]

Gravis have a bad transport viability issue especially for characters so I think that that would affect their popularity...which pushes me even further towards more Primaris biker characters first

[Marshal Reinhard]

Heavy Assault Intercessors isn't something I'd say no to. I'd envision them using Heavy Eviscerators or Twohanded Thunderhammers. But I'm not really holding my breath on this one.

Characters seem like a given thing to expand on when you almost have a complete army line up already; not just Chappy and Libby but Apothecaries and Techmarines too.

 

Though for any of those characters you could pretty much stick them on a bike as well instead.

[Jacques Corbin]

Oh yes, another problem. Why take a Gravis Chaplain when you can take a Primaris Bike instead?

Well, here is my theory. Put the Chaplain in Gravis Armor, give him his Crozius, and on the other arm, give him the option of the Flamestorm Gauntlet like Aggressors have, or the Bolt version the Gravis Captain has. Also, we have seen gravis units with shoulder or backpack mounted special weapons, and grenade launchers. So, why not give a Gravis Chaplain his own vox-casting array? And that would extend the range of his auras and litanies, and hopefully GW would let those affect more than one unit. Finally, a stratagem where Gravis Chappy gets to affect every friendly <chapter> unit on the field would be awesome. And, I would be just fine with that being a once per game stratagem, where lore-wise gravis chappy overloads his vox-caster and wrecks it, causing it to stop working and dealing him a mortal wound, but reaching all friendly units on the battlefield.

 

It is a playstyle issue. Some players want a chaplain who will lead the charge, others want a Chaplain who can anchor the line, and and be a major force multiplier.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

Gravis have a bad transport viability issue especially for characters so I think that that would affect their popularity...which pushes me even further towards more Primaris biker characters first

not many people are using transports from what I’ve seen any way, so not that big of an issue

[Jorin Helm-splitter]

 

 

 

4 if you count Phobos armour, which has a focus I found weird since the units in such armour duplicate each other quite a lot.

 

The Gravis line definitely appears unfinished though. It's got Troops and Elites, has 2 types of Captain but feels a little more sparse.

 

Having said that, there isn't a Phobos Chaplain so maybe we won't see that in Gravis?

Gravis unfinished? Only when you talk about the HQ lineup:

 

HQ - Captain in Gravis Armor, Captain with Master-Crafted Heavy Bolt Rifle

 

Elite - Aggressors

 

Troops - Heavy Intercessors

 

Fast Attack - Inceptors

 

Heavy Support - Eradicators

 

What other specialists are needed? Librarian, Chaplain, Ancient are all that are really missing. Maybe a dedicated melee, but I would prefer not to have the bloat.

That's a pretty boring army, hopefully they do another close combat option. I can sorta understand not wanting the bloat but Marines have always felt that way.

is it though? 500-1500 points it could potentially be a pretty fun army.

 

Add in a gravis version of BGVs, and more devastator like fire support unit (or gravis hellblasters) and you can have a real nice 2000pt army fairly easily

 

 

I tend to think of 2000 point lists as the standard. So I think Gravis has a good skeleton, and I don't think it needs much more but you already pointed out a couple of expansions. That said its extremely subjective topic, and its just my opinion. One person's "bloat" is another person's favorite unit. 

 

 

Gravis have a bad transport viability issue especially for characters so I think that that would affect their popularity...which pushes me even further towards more Primaris biker characters first

not many people are using transports from what I’ve seen any way, so not that big of an issue

 

 

Just to reinforce what Inquisitor_Lensoven was saying GW seems to care more about rule of cool than viability, just look out how many captain models they've released over the years that had subpar loadouts. Or look at Gladiators...

 

That said I agree that a Primaris Bike Captain will be released first because every wave has came with a new captain.  

Edited October 11, 2021 by Jorin Helm-splitter

[Dark Shepherd]

 

Gravis have a bad transport viability issue especially for characters so I think that that would affect their popularity...which pushes me even further towards more Primaris biker characters first

not many people are using transports from what I’ve seen any way, so not that big of an issue

Thats kind of the point. Limited options but theres very little gravis on the tabletop, Salamander flamer Aggressors if anything at all?

[Jorin Helm-splitter]

 

 

Gravis have a bad transport viability issue especially for characters so I think that that would affect their popularity...which pushes me even further towards more Primaris biker characters first

not many people are using transports from what I’ve seen any way, so not that big of an issue

Thats kind of the point. Limited options but theres very little gravis on the tabletop, Salamander flamer Aggressors if anything at all?

 

 

I think its really hard to judge how popular units are right now. We have a pretty clear picture of what the competitive community likes, but most of can already judge that fairly well. But at least in my area we don't really have much of casual scene yet. It wouldn't surprise me if Gravis is pretty popular but I don't really have a good way of knowing.

 

GW doesn't just cater to the competitive community, they've released to many dud units to accuse them of that lol.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

 

 

Gravis have a bad transport viability issue especially for characters so I think that that would affect their popularity...which pushes me even further towards more Primaris biker characters first

not many people are using transports from what I’ve seen any way, so not that big of an issue

Thats kind of the point. Limited options but theres very little gravis on the tabletop, Salamander flamer Aggressors if anything at all?

ive generally just seen a lot of gravis between posts of painted models and army lists…not saying they’re like every where but they don’t seem rare to me.

[Dark Shepherd]

Where I play is smart casual rather than full on meta level but Ive never seen any aggressors on the table top. But more relevant to this thread, never seen any Gravis Captains. Edited October 12, 2021 by Dark Shepherd