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I had a 2k practice game with the new Templars vs Dark Eldar. My opponent had a decent wych cult list with 3 big units jetbikes, characters including drazhar and a core of wyches in raiders. I took 5 big blobs of primaris crusaders (4x 20 and 1x15) all with just swords and pistols, Helbrect and Grimaldus. I wanted to really stress test the new crusaders and see how well it paired with 5++ vow.

 

The end result, the Templars absolutely massacred the Drukari. All the dark lances, blasters and heat lances basically bounced. They got the drop on me T2 and killed about 40 crusaders with an all in army charge. In my counter attack I basically wiped them out apart from scattered survivors.

 

What stood out was just how durable the blobs were. Mini transhuman, 5++ and a 6+++ from Grimaldus was great. And in combat they were lethal, I was able to put 3 almost intact blobs in assault doctrine turn 2 thanks to the Helm, the strat from the main codex and the litany that puts you in an extra vow. This meant each blob was putting out about 60 str5 ap-2 attacks with full rerolls to hit (either litany of hate or chapter master rerolls)

 

Genuinely think primaris black tide is lethal.

Awesome! What do you think you would add to round out your list? Did you try the Riposte stratagem to deal some mortal wounds for your casualties? Drukhari jetbikes are mad scary, I run 3 big units myself.

 

Are Gladiator Valiants with the extra Multimelta worth it?

 

I had a 2k practice game with the new Templars vs Dark Eldar. My opponent had a decent wych cult list with 3 big units jetbikes, characters including drazhar and a core of wyches in raiders. I took 5 big blobs of primaris crusaders (4x 20 and 1x15) all with just swords and pistols, Helbrect and Grimaldus. I wanted to really stress test the new crusaders and see how well it paired with 5++ vow.

 

The end result, the Templars absolutely massacred the Drukari. All the dark lances, blasters and heat lances basically bounced. They got the drop on me T2 and killed about 40 crusaders with an all in army charge. In my counter attack I basically wiped them out apart from scattered survivors.

 

What stood out was just how durable the blobs were. Mini transhuman, 5++ and a 6+++ from Grimaldus was great. And in combat they were lethal, I was able to put 3 almost intact blobs in assault doctrine turn 2 thanks to the Helm, the strat from the main codex and the litany that puts you in an extra vow. This meant each blob was putting out about 60 str5 ap-2 attacks with full rerolls to hit (either litany of hate or chapter master rerolls)

 

Genuinely think primaris black tide is lethal.

Awesome! What do you think you would add to round out your list? Did you try the Riposte stratagem to deal some mortal wounds for your casualties? Drukhari jetbikes are mad scary, I run 3 big units myself.

 

Are Gladiator Valiants with the extra Multimelta worth it?

 

If you play them - then I would say you should always buy the additional Multimelta

 

 

 

I had a 2k practice game with the new Templars vs Dark Eldar. My opponent had a decent wych cult list with 3 big units jetbikes, characters including drazhar and a core of wyches in raiders. I took 5 big blobs of primaris crusaders (4x 20 and 1x15) all with just swords and pistols, Helbrect and Grimaldus. I wanted to really stress test the new crusaders and see how well it paired with 5++ vow.

 

The end result, the Templars absolutely massacred the Drukari. All the dark lances, blasters and heat lances basically bounced. They got the drop on me T2 and killed about 40 crusaders with an all in army charge. In my counter attack I basically wiped them out apart from scattered survivors.

 

What stood out was just how durable the blobs were. Mini transhuman, 5++ and a 6+++ from Grimaldus was great. And in combat they were lethal, I was able to put 3 almost intact blobs in assault doctrine turn 2 thanks to the Helm, the strat from the main codex and the litany that puts you in an extra vow. This meant each blob was putting out about 60 str5 ap-2 attacks with full rerolls to hit (either litany of hate or chapter master rerolls)

 

Genuinely think primaris black tide is lethal.

Awesome! What do you think you would add to round out your list? Did you try the Riposte stratagem to deal some mortal wounds for your casualties? Drukhari jetbikes are mad scary, I run 3 big units myself.

 

Are Gladiator Valiants with the extra Multimelta worth it?

If you play them - then I would say you should always buy the additional Multimelta

If you play them? I know they are expensive, but I would run 2. One would get shot to scrap too quickly, but your opponent would have to split their fire, deciding between trying to cripple both, or destroy one and have the other still fully operational.

 

Not only that, run the up aggressively, and they can charge in before the Crusaders, and soak up any over watch, especially with Tau. Also, while they are in melee, can't get shot at, except by pistols, but the can shoot, 6 multimelta shot and 4 Lastalon shots, albeit at -1 to hit, but those shots will splat 95% of infantry easily.

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