Amocat Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Not a competitive player asking out if curiously: I’m wondering what SM units folks think that are more viable with UtHotE? Impulsor a have been discussed, aggressor? Or even the hammerfall as a back line defense unit while the crusaders go running across the board? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372058-units-that-become-viable-with-uphold/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Everything with T4 and a 3+ Save and especially vehicles with 3+ or 4+ Save: I would categorize into 5 Tiers: (how good the unit become because of Uphold) A: phenomenal B: very good C: good D: sometimes / maybe ok E: never special color: without uphold it would be going -2 categories ore even more (from A to C for example) already good unit - does benefit not that much. A: Land Speeder Storm !!! B: Impulsors, Rhinos, Intercessors, Assault Intercessors, Land Speeder (normal one) C: Crusader Squad, Sword Brethren, D: all special Land Speeder, Scouts (not sure yet but it seems in combination with LSS it could be perfect for Oct. Data. E: Land Raider Crusader, Repulsor, Repulsor Executioner I will finish that work if you want - always looking on the thread. Amocat and Palmu 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372058-units-that-become-viable-with-uphold/#findComment-5755943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amocat Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 That’s a great format, very helpful thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372058-units-that-become-viable-with-uphold/#findComment-5755948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_typical_hero Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Venerable Dreadnoughts are really good now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372058-units-that-become-viable-with-uphold/#findComment-5755964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Ass Centurion and ATV could be "playable" now? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372058-units-that-become-viable-with-uphold/#findComment-5755966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_typical_hero Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 ATV were playable before, imho. They just got better :) Centurions can be made really nasty, but in order to use them efficiently, you need some mitigation for their low mobility. LRC come to mind, but that is a lot of points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372058-units-that-become-viable-with-uphold/#findComment-5755974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I think aggressors are a big winner from a combination of uphold and the -1D relic. They’re a great candidate for having a sergeant with 4W as well. Redemptors we’re already viable but become even better, especially if you have Grimaldus give them a 6+++ on top of everything. Impulsors gain more than any other vehicle I think. 5++ and a multimelta, along with the Icarus array and storm bolters makes them into a capable fighting vehicle, and surprisingly fast at 14”. The only thing they’re really lacking is a good close range shooting unit to jump out of them. This does mean that hellblasters are much improved too. They’ve got a perfect transport and a 5++ of their own. I could well imagine an army built around impulsors carrying hellblasters and bladeguard working pretty effectively. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372058-units-that-become-viable-with-uphold/#findComment-5755979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I think aggressors are a big winner from a combination of uphold and the -1D relic. They’re a great candidate for having a sergeant with 4W as well. Redemptors we’re already viable but become even better, especially if you have Grimaldus give them a 6+++ on top of everything. Impulsors gain more than any other vehicle I think. 5++ and a multimelta, along with the Icarus array and storm bolters makes them into a capable fighting vehicle, and surprisingly fast at 14”. The only thing they’re really lacking is a good close range shooting unit to jump out of them. This does mean that hellblasters are much improved too. They’ve got a perfect transport and a 5++ of their own. I could well imagine an army built around impulsors carrying hellblasters and bladeguard working pretty effectively. Not to mention even outside of Impulsors, you can use the advance and shoot without penalty strat with Assault Hellblasters :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372058-units-that-become-viable-with-uphold/#findComment-5756019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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