Galron Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Scratching my head on how to deal with this guy. My league is at 1250 and there are two people playing him, they have been playing him since 1000 points actually. Either my next game or the upgrade to 1500 I will have to deal with one of them. I have Nightbringer that I plan on bringing with possibly a scarab swarm to reduce smite damage, but aside from long range AT whats the best way for necrons to deal with him? He is pretty much impossible to ignore with the massive amount of debuffs, melee, and psykic abilities he tosses around in a big foot print. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372061-dealing-with-mortarion-in-lower-points/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Short of pure knights, it’s obnoxious to play LoW at 1000 points. No suggestions other than the following for escalation leagues: - at 500 maybe no vehicles/monsters/low - at 1000 no LoW - from 1500, anything goes Karhedron, XeonDragon and Gederas 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372061-dealing-with-mortarion-in-lower-points/#findComment-5756146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Im not running the league. Hell, one DG player brought a plagueburst crawler at 500, he is using two now, plus Morty. This if I get T1 means no squishy objective holders since I use two squads of Tomb Blades. I always liked my old store's league rules for less than 750 a few editions back. 1 HQ(no named), 1-3 troops, up to 1 for each other slot. No 2+ saves, no more than 3 wounds on any model, No toughness higher than 8, at the time no vehicle with an armor value higher than 32(back in the days when a Chimera had armor value of 12/10/10 and rhinos 11/11/10(I think). Edited October 21, 2021 by Galron XeonDragon 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372061-dealing-with-mortarion-in-lower-points/#findComment-5756148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Playing Morty at low point levels is a bit cheesy. The best advice I can give is focus on Objectives and play around Morty as best you can. He is a beatstick and a damage sponge but he can't win a game by himself if the rest of his army is dead. Tarpit him with some cheap scarab swarms and focus on scoring those Objectives. BLACK BLΠFLY, tychobi and XeonDragon 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372061-dealing-with-mortarion-in-lower-points/#findComment-5756168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tychobi Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 The answer is to ignore him. He can not be everywhere at once and you will struggle to pull him down with less than 2k of firepower. Win on points and wreck the rest of the force. He is a meat missile so it is usually pretty easy to predict where he is going. Feed him your lesser stuff and focus on your objectives. Good luck! XeonDragon and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372061-dealing-with-mortarion-in-lower-points/#findComment-5756186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted October 22, 2021 Author Share Posted October 22, 2021 If I run into him in the next game I will send a screen of scarabs, the night bringer, and a canoptek tombstalker for the gloom prism to tie him up and possibly bring him down. Keep the scarabs in base to base and the nightbringer .5" away and maybe bring the stalker around the edges. The one player I know their list for is also fielding two plagueburst crawlers so in addition to one of the lord HQs, he cant have many more units for my tomb blades to destroy. Their primary mission in any game is to destroy objective takers/action doers and so far they do it very well. Depending on the situation my heavies will engage one crawler at a time. Not sure what the other DG player is fielding and not too worried about the 3rd player as she is very new and I have already played her and the "You cant beat the dice" phrase applies well to her too even with two of us coaching her. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372061-dealing-with-mortarion-in-lower-points/#findComment-5756317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Plaugueburst Crawlers are very good for their points but if you can tag them in combat with something cheap and fast, you can stop them shooting at anything important for a turn or two. Your sacrificial units don't even have to do any damage, just keep it occupied. The Mortar is probably the best weapon and that can't fire into melee although the secondary weapons will likely cause some damage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372061-dealing-with-mortarion-in-lower-points/#findComment-5756321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Outrider detachment of Scarabs. 6 units of Scarabs is what, 250 points? Plenty of room left over for other units to play the objectives and pick off whatever else he brings. If someone thinks it is fun to bring Mortarion and two PBCs to a low points league, that is just the level of annoyance they deserve. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372061-dealing-with-mortarion-in-lower-points/#findComment-5756328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emicus Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) Aside from 'just die' you can throw the model out a window. There's nothing you can do. Can't hide from him, can't fight him, can't 'just hold objectives lol'. There's the nightbringer and ungodly rolls... But -1 dmg and fnp makes it disgustingly unlikely... Edited October 28, 2021 by Emicus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372061-dealing-with-mortarion-in-lower-points/#findComment-5758191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trollbeard Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Mortarion can’t take his FNP rolls against the nightbringer. Mordas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372061-dealing-with-mortarion-in-lower-points/#findComment-5758203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Nightbringer is your best bet and costs less points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372061-dealing-with-mortarion-in-lower-points/#findComment-5762126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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