Which is the least popular Legion?

[Squark]

On 11/2/2021 at 3:08 AM, Gamiel said:

Just wondering, how often do you see traitor factions from Loyalist Legions? I know that olyalist factions from Traitor Legions are relativly populare but what about the other way around?

They're relatively sparse in fluff and mechanics, whereas Loyalists from the traitor legions get to be main characters.

[Doctor Perils]

16 hours ago, Scoopslayer said:

It's definitely Luna wolves. Of course if you're going by exclusively lore accurate legions, It's probably Salamanders. They don't really have any appeal in the heresy because they aren't much different except for the trademark heresy realism. Every other legion has some big trait that makes them unique and interesting, like how the Ultramarines actually look like romans and not blueberry larplords. The fists have their minor scheme change along with the executioners and templars being mixed in (not forgetting that they're actual fists and not successor soup). The Salamanders just don't have the uniqueness, anyone choosing salamanders would just go to 40k where they can have pyreblasters and fight xenos.

Being similar to their 40k incarnation doesn't mean they'll be less popular as a legion. And going from your comparison to the ultramarines, then the salamanders take on the monster-hunters aesthetic and the mesopotamian symbols and sigils, which sets them apart from their 40k selves more than the roman legionary aspect which actually does remain for ultramarines. Lorewise, they also feel like a broken legion, doing their best to fight against their doom, which many people find an interesting thought exploration - its certainly characterful.

 

On the other hand, I think the novels they've had have been very poorly received on the whole - this does indeed tarnish their appeal to some extent

[Noserenda]

I dunno, from some extensive conversations in the TF days, having no difference between 30k and 40k is major turnoff for a lot of people, and in those days you at least had an army you could straightforwardly use in both systems at least, these days a 30k list is pretty different even from a hobbit only 40k list, let only Primaris and all their new toys.

All the loyalist legions suffer from it to an extent, but the Salamanders change essentially not at all despite all the things that happened and its a bit silly.

[Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf]

Iron Hands, maybe. Or White Scars

[sarabando]

the one i dont see alot of is Green salamanders, i do however see lots of yellow/black sallie armies (which im guilt of myself) 

 

as for in general i dont see many space wolf armies. 

[Squark]

2 hours ago, sarabando said:

the one i dont see alot of is Green salamanders, i do however see lots of yellow/black sallie armies (which im guilt of myself) 

 

as for in general i dont see many space wolf armies. 

Wolves suffer from needing a ton more $ or conversion work to use the bespoke troops who really bring out the legion's play style. It's what kept me from getting into HH for the longest time until I decided to do a different legion.

[Noserenda]

You used to see a lot of space wolves, lots of imagery and useful upgrades from 40k plastics... but then their godawful forgeworld range killed a lot of keen i think

[Darnok]

42 minutes ago, Noserenda said:

You used to see a lot of space wolves, lots of imagery and useful upgrades from 40k plastics... but then their godawful forgeworld range killed a lot of keen i think

 

This feels odd to me. The SW plastic kits are still around, as are the Mk.III and Mk.IV kits that mix easily with them. Of all the legions you could do completely from plastic kits, SW are one of the easiest in my opinion.

[Noserenda]

1 hour ago, Darnok said:

 

This feels odd to me. The SW plastic kits are still around, as are the Mk.III and Mk.IV kits that mix easily with them. Of all the legions you could do completely from plastic kits, SW are one of the easiest in my opinion.

There is a significant difference between doing a bit of kitbashing while you wait for what could be amazing FW offerings and kitbashing everything because your FW offerings are awful for people, at least thats what they have told me. I know i went through something similar with the Alpha Legion (Though they arent objectively terrible they dont fit my image of the legion at all) but then i already had a Battalion of them so moved on to Iron Warriors :D 

There may be other reasons sure, but there are definitely less Space wolves around than there were.

[Darnok]

Fair enough. It is not my personal stance for HH, but I see the appeal of "I want to use FW kits for my HH army as much as possible" and the disappointment when FW does not deliver.

[Corswain]

For what it's worth, the Warhammer Community poll/article on what Legion everyone was doing had Word Bearers as the lowest numbers.

 

I think it was framed as "new army" though, from memory so would misrepresent numbers of those with Word Bearers already. On the plus side it probably reached a fairly large number of people.

 

[Pacific81]

On 7/4/2023 at 7:29 PM, Noserenda said:

You used to see a lot of space wolves, lots of imagery and useful upgrades from 40k plastics... but then their godawful forgeworld range killed a lot of keen i think

Do you remember the one army back in the day from the old Great Crusade forum? Annoyingly I can't remember the guys name. Awesome conversions of MK4 guys with furs over their shoulders, and vastly better than the official minis.

 

They actually got put up on display in WHW for a while I believe.

[Noserenda]

Ha yes! That's one of the main ones I had in mind as he inspired a bunch of similar armies :)

[Marshal Mittens]

I would do spacewolves in 30k if there were plastics. Don't care for the FW kits much, or working with FW resin. Still might do wolves one day, but its years off.

[Brofist]

Just here. Postin in this WS thread :)