Newbie Question

[Kimchi]

Hey I am pretty new to playing 40k and have only played about 4-5 games at my local gamestore. After doing some tinkering and reading the rules and playing with my space marines  I want to run them as Iron Hands now, I really enjoy using the vehicles and dreadnought, the only problem is almost my whole army is already painted and done blue. Some are just primed blue but for the most part I have all blue. In total it is only about 35-40 models but I am wondering if I wanted to go with the Iron Hand paint scheme what would be the best way to do it? Should I just spray my men black and just go from there or strip the paint, and if I had to strip the paint what is the best way to do it? Thanks everyone

[tychobi]

I reccomend painting over in a homebrew scheme. (You may change your mind again regarding your favorite rules) Stripping is a headache and often not needed. Unless you caked on the first coats you should be Aok to prime over and start again.

[Iron Father Ferrum]

I'd recommend stripping and repainting. I use Super Clean, an automotive degreaser. Comes in a purple bottle, can be bought at Walmart. It won't destroy the models, is even safe on resin, and a few hours' bath will lift the paint off easily.

 

Welcome to the Iron Tenth! You can get your bionic hand to the left, three doors down.

Edited November 7, 2021 by Iron Father Ferrum

[TheNewman]

I reccomend painting over in a homebrew scheme. (You may change your mind again regarding your favorite rules) Stripping is a headache and often not needed. Unless you caked on the first coats you should be Aok to prime over and start again.

I'll second that. Unless you really want to play Iron Father Fierros there's no particular reason to actually use the Iron Hands scheme instead of picking something you like and calling them a successor.

Edited November 8, 2021 by TheNewman

[Gamiel]

I reccomend painting over in a homebrew scheme. (You may change your mind again regarding your favorite rules) Stripping is a headache and often not needed. Unless you caked on the first coats you should be Aok to prime over and start again.

You don't even really need to do a real paint over, just remove/coverupp the transfears (or ad something so the Um "U" become a different symbol), may chapters have similar colours (just look at all the black ones) so a IH successor that's blue is nothing unusual.

[BloodyB]

If you come up with a paint scheme that features blue, it will be fine. If you have your heart set on those noble sons of Ferrus Manus, or another scheme in mind, I find Isopropyl alcohol to be the best cleaner, available from many soapery suppliers, and works fine on flat parts of models with cotton pads and sponges, for deeper recesses/detailed areas, using Q-tips or cocktail sticks.

 

Welcome to the lovely realm of Warhammer 40,000, and no matter what method you choose, go for what you enjoy the most.

 

Have fun!

[Orange Knight]

My advice to you would be to chose a chapter that you like for reasons beyond the tabletop, because you'll soon discover that the rules for the chapters rise and fall with the times.

 

I do play my army as different chapters from time to time, but I often do it almost ironically to illustrate the disparity of power level that arises between chapters as their supplements are slowly rolled out.

 

Now, if you actually do like the Iron Hands then by all means don't be afraid to repaint the army. I should point out to you that the Black Templars actually have arguably superior tanks and Dreadnoughts due to a free, army-wide Invulnerable save.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

Hey I am pretty new to playing 40k and have only played about 4-5 games at my local gamestore. After doing some tinkering and reading the rules and playing with my space marines I want to run them as Iron Hands now, I really enjoy using the vehicles and dreadnought, the only problem is almost my whole army is already painted and done blue. Some are just primed blue but for the most part I have all blue. In total it is only about 35-40 models but I am wondering if I wanted to go with the Iron Hand paint scheme what would be the best way to do it? Should I just spray my men black and just go from there or strip the paint, and if I had to strip the paint what is the best way to do it? Thanks everyone

custom successor chapter of iron hands.

Inheritors of the primarch, their color scheme is blue.

Bam. Problem solved.

[phandaal]

 

Hey I am pretty new to playing 40k and have only played about 4-5 games at my local gamestore. After doing some tinkering and reading the rules and playing with my space marines I want to run them as Iron Hands now, I really enjoy using the vehicles and dreadnought, the only problem is almost my whole army is already painted and done blue. Some are just primed blue but for the most part I have all blue. In total it is only about 35-40 models but I am wondering if I wanted to go with the Iron Hand paint scheme what would be the best way to do it? Should I just spray my men black and just go from there or strip the paint, and if I had to strip the paint what is the best way to do it? Thanks everyone

custom successor chapter of iron hands.

Inheritors of the primarch, their color scheme is blue.

Bam. Problem solved.

Inheritors of the Primarch is a bad rule. Not sure why anyone would use it unless they really want to pay an extra CP for a chapter relic and not have access to special characters.

 

Just use Iron Hands rules and call it a day. Same goes for any chapter really.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

WAAC players use Inheritors for things like Whirlwind of Rage.

[Oxydo]

WAAC players use Inheritors for things like Whirlwind of Rage.

That's not how Inheritors works.

[Kimchi]

I appreciate everyone's feedback! I should be more clear, I really really really love the iron hand paint scheme and if I do change chapters for tabletop I probably won't ever repaint them as black and white just seem very nice to me, I just really do not like the blue, I was just unsure how it all worked so I just did blue to start and regret it immensely now

Edited November 8, 2021 by Kimchi

[Orange Knight]

I appreciate everyone's feedback! I should be more clear, I really really really love the iron hand paint scheme and if I do change chapters for tabletop I probably won't ever repaint them as black and white just seem very nice to me, I just really do not like the blue, I was just unsure how it all worked so I just did blue to start and regret it immensely now

Don't be afraid to repaint the models. You've just started out.

 

Use a spray and start again, unless some of them have thick paint on them already, in which case it might be a case of stripping required.

 

Good luck!

[phandaal]

 

WAAC players use Inheritors for things like Whirlwind of Rage.

That's not how Inheritors works.

Haha yeah. Inheritors is not for custom chapter traits.

 

It is "your parent chapter, but worse." No custom chapter traits, just restrictions on using relics and characters. It is a bad rule.

 

Always warn new people against falling into that trap.

 

Anyway, looks like OP got the answer he was looking for!

[TheNewman]

It's a pretty safe bet that BBF meant the Successor rules. I have a hard time with classifying that as WAAC though, outside of the Whirwing of Rage / Born Heros combo on an all-in melee list there aren't many combos that outperform the major chapter tactics.

[phandaal]

He was probably just confused, yeah. There is no way any WAAC player would ever use a rule that only makes your army a little bit worse for no benefit.

 

And agreed, it is hard to see Successor traits as WAAC either.

 

OP was just asking about the physical possibility of repainting his blue dues as Iron Hands though, not the rules for playing blue dudes as Iron Hands.

Edited November 8, 2021 by phandaal

[Tokugawa]

Paint your Marines purple, then it could be claimed as successor of any chapter more reasonably, when needed.