Captain Idaho Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I raised this in another thread but I've been thinking; Space Marines are done now eh. All the Chapters have new Supplements or Codex books, so what next for GW? They likely will release new Primaris to push sales, which likely will require a book all of their own or a new Codex Space Marines to be included. The alternative is GW doesn't touch Primaris until 10th launches but that's surely over a year away, so do we really think GW is done with Primaris for that long? I'm actually a bit perplexed on this one. GW won't sit idle but we have no idea where they're going with their flagship now as they've said previous little of their long term plans (which is frustrating in itself). Maybe they'll release new models alongside a campaign Supplement which is the most likely result, with a new Codex later down the line with the new stuff? Note, I'm not saying I want GW to focus on new models for Marines but rather commenting upon what's happening. Trust me, I too appreciate other factions getting new models... Sarvis and Race Bannon 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Vanguard primaris were released with their own supplement until included in the 8.5 ed SM codex. We still have to see: Gravis librarian +/- Chaplain Primaris Bike captain + librarian Melee based Omnis mark unit. Phobos Chaplain Primaris Lieutenant on Bike That mystery hellfuries or hellstorm unit teased ages ago in a novel? Chapter specific primaris units, maybe released with the revised supplements. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Beyond filling in some of the HQ gaps (i.e. Biker / Gravis, and so on), I could see them filling in by updating some characters from the successors - pushing them across the Rubicon or otherwise. Gabriel Seth, Pedro Kantor, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 More Chapter-specific stuff now that Black Templars have opened up the floodgates, maybe starting with the Chapters that still have 8th edition Supplements. Joe and painting.for.my.sanity 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 We still have to see: …snip… That mystery hellfuries or hellstorm unit teased ages ago in a novel? Not sure on this one - it’s entirely possible that the “Hellfuries” were renamed Eradicators and there is nothing else coming on that front. All the rest seem like good calls. Not sure that Marines of any variety are really “done” ever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 There was mention of a Primaris Flyer at some point (maybe in a BL book?), I'd imagine they'd add some sort of flyer out side of the landspeeders Maybe actual combat jump pack units too? At the moment they only have Inceptors and Suppressors. After that, I think they'd have the analogue for pretty much everything I think Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I don't think Space Marines are done yet. We're stilling missing parts of the command squad/chapter command, notably the Champion in Primaris form. I think it becomes a bit more obvious when you look at the DA especially with the Deathwing/Ravenwing. Those are not fieldable as Primaris yet meaningfully, there is no unit that gets ObSec for Deathwing for Primaris, so there's clearly a hole there. Some way to have a Deathwing Apothecary/Champion are needed as well, as is the command for Ravenwing (bike LT, command squad, etc.) So there's very clearly more generic gaps to fill, as there are obvious gaps for DA, SW and BA especially. Not sure on this one - it’s entirely possible that the “Hellfuries” were renamed Eradicators and there is nothing else coming on that front. All the rest seem like good calls. Not sure that Marines of any variety are really “done” ever. I would agree, I think we'll have much better information when the next refinement of the Ultramarines codex supplement is published, we can see if the reference is still there or if it's been changed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Next wave of primaris counter parts. New primaris units not really defined as of yet Primaris "devastators" Cqc dreads Terminators Chapter specific as primaris Wolf guard Sanguinary guard Etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Theres still supplements for Ultra/Scars/Salamanders/Iron Hands/Fists to presumably come out and theres small releaseses they could could do with them eg primaris versions of generic characters only in legends such as techmarine on bike, unique characters, multipart outriders with scars Also faction specific primaris 10th has more or less officially been delayed by a year if not two so wouldnt look at it in a 3 year window anymore, plus everything that went on in the world Going by the proven leak theres major Chaos and Eldar to come and no marine rumoured releases so wouldnt expect more marines til the summer or Autumn. There will be some manner of big release in the summer and it was AOS this year... Even a couple of new units in a battle box.v chaos or eldar would sell like crazy. Is strange/refreshing weve already had such a huge period since the delayed heavy intercessors with only the non generic Templars Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I think we'll start to see the 8th edition supplements touched up. Maybe a campaign book will have some generic characters for everyone. That said I do think HH is going to receive the push normally meant for marines. A large proportion of our community views primaris as replacements so updating the HH should appeal to them and reassure them that firstborn aren't going anywhere. Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Still hundreds of potential units, be it analogues to First Born classics or new units (or even chapter specific)! Characters have a wealth of specific options yet to be cast in plastic (why is the Chaplain the only Primaris with his Biker's license?) Not to mention the chapter supplements bar BT are all 8th ed books... Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I think we will see more chapter specific units and characters. My guess is that they will release alongside campaign books. so well will get a Dark Angel release, with Ravenwing sprue for bikes and speeders, a new Dearhwing unit (agressor based), and a couple of new characters. A Blood angel release with Dante, Samguinary guard and a furioso Redemptor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Why would any Deathwing unit be aggressor based? All the Primaris Deathwing are bladeguard, so some further unit in that direction would make a lot more sense. I do see one of BA/DA/SW, probably BA or DA, maybe late next year, and that'll probably be associated with a campaign book vs a new supplement as you mention. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Yeah the big 4 will probably get updates in campaign books. I just think/hope they fix IF and RG first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 There was mention of a Primaris Flyer at some point (maybe in a BL book?), I'd imagine they'd add some sort of flyer out side of the landspeeders Maybe actual combat jump pack units too? At the moment they only have Inceptors and Suppressors. After that, I think they'd have the analogue for pretty much everything I think still waiting for my primaris razorback Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Isn't the Impulsor the primaris razorback? Karhedron and painting.for.my.sanity 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofSigismund Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I just really want drop pods for my Templars and fists. Well for everyone who has primaris that misses them. I always ran that list even if was terrible, I switched between that and mechanized and right now mechanized isn’t very good for my primaris. Brother Kraskor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague _Lord Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Ekhem*Dante*ekhem BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 True scale Deathwing terminators. Nothing else is needed after that. 40k will be complete. tinpact, Inquisitor Eisenhorn and bigtrouble 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Eisenhorn Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Color me optimistic, but I also think we're going to see new terminators. Sarvis 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) I would be quite happy if they saved up the next big primaris realise until 10th and focused on Xenos and guard for a bit. Some of those models are really dated. I would like in the mean time the original supplements to be updated as they are really showing their age. Roboute needs a rules change too. Maybe one or two Rubicon heroes would be nice too, there are still some special characters that need the upgrade. As for where's left to go...terminators. I would like a drop pod but I feel the old model is really iconic and still fit for purpose...just let primaris use it. Edited November 16, 2021 by Subtleknife Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Squat or split firstborn into a separate codex next edition. Primaris have enough to stand alone, with more on the way certainly. Let firstborn have a chance to breathe again in 40k or retire them to the HH/ pre 13th black crussade via specialist games. The SM codex is bloated. Iron Father Ferrum 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARMASTER_ Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Haven’t read everyone’s responses fully but my guess is more chapter specific releases and then generic chapter veteran kits and Ven Dreads like how we saw in 2013 Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Haven’t read everyone’s responses fully but my guess is more chapter specific releases and then generic chapter veteran kits and Ven Dreads like how we saw in 2013 Primaris dreads kill their pilots like the Levi dreads do. It's not possible to have a venerable redemptor because the occupants die from its use. Double gun and double melee redemptors varients would make more sense. mel_danes 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Haven’t read everyone’s responses fully but my guess is more chapter specific releases and then generic chapter veteran kits and Ven Dreads like how we saw in 2013Primaris dreads kill their pilots like the Levi dreads do. It's not possible to have a venerable redemptor because the occupants die from its use. Double gun and double melee redemptors varients would make more sense. Redemptor dreads kill their occupants the same way the Rubicon Primaris kills half the Marines who try it. "This guy is so tough, even a Redemptor Dreadnought can't kill him!" *Release new model with crazy good stats because of his toughness* BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372331-where-left-to-go/#findComment-5764705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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