angrom Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 What is the consensus about the keywords Of the ctan regarding look out sir for another character. The rule is that our character can hide behind a monster or vehicule unit which the ctan is. But another say to ignore character unit with 9 wounds or less which it is also. So can we hide or not a character behind a ctan? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372358-ctan-and-look-out-sir-on-other-characters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I assumed that characters can’t hide behind c’tan . (Just can’t trust those malevolent star gods) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372358-ctan-and-look-out-sir-on-other-characters/#findComment-5764892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I've always assumed that you would have to fulfill both requirements, i.e.- you would need to be a Monstrous Character that is over 9 Wounds to have the ability to shield another character. If you can't do both, you can't shield. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372358-ctan-and-look-out-sir-on-other-characters/#findComment-5764906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 This rule has been amended. The current version is as follows (source): Page 219 – Look Out, Sir Change this rule to read: ‘Models cannot target a unit that contains any Character models with a Wounds characteristic of 9 or less with a ranged weapon while that Character unit is within 3" of any of the following: • A friendly unit that contains 1 or more Vehicle or Monster models with a wounds characteristic of 10 or more. • A friendly non-Character unit that contains 1 or more Vehicle or Monster models. • A friendly non-Character unit that contains 3 or more models. In all cases, if that Character unit is both visible to the firing model and it is the closest enemy unit to the firing model, it can be targeted normally. When determining if that Character unit is the closest enemy unit to the firing model, ignore other enemy units that contain any Character models with a Wounds characteristics of 9 or less.’ Unfortunately, C'tan don't meet any of these conditions. They don't have 10 or more wounds and they are characters (and only single models). A vehicle or monster character can only shield other characters if it has 10 wounds or more. This is pretty rare in 40k, though you do get a few Tyrannids, daemons and one or two other examples. But not C'tan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372358-ctan-and-look-out-sir-on-other-characters/#findComment-5764949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galron Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 What if they physically block line of sight and the opponent flat out cant see the small character behind the c'tan? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372358-ctan-and-look-out-sir-on-other-characters/#findComment-5764976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 True line of sight blocking works… but is hard to pull off Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372358-ctan-and-look-out-sir-on-other-characters/#findComment-5764988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Thokt Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Yeah I don't think you can hide anything behind a C'tan with true LOS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372358-ctan-and-look-out-sir-on-other-characters/#findComment-5765164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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