Limited edition miniatures

[Chaeron]

Was there a navigator? Or am I confusing Mournival rules?

Ah yes, and rules appear to be still available on the FW page!

 

Could we count the Knight Scion too?

[Slips]

Was there a navigator? Or am I confusing Mournival rules?

There was, a friend gave me a recast of him that he had a while back.

[Sarvis]

 

 

 

There's the IW character too

Dreygur, I think his name was. Man I love that model, wish I could get my hands on it

Yes, Narik Dreygur - a brilliant model!

 

We also have the Davinite Lodge Priest and the wonderful Breacher Marine Sergeant in Mark III that are sought after!

 

I think I'd echo the others that making them available further down the line is always positive - and having duplicates for lots of the above would be helpful for conversions or alternatives.

Davinite lodge priest?? That seems super random to me, what place would it have on the table?

[Chaeron]

 

 

 

There's the IW character too

Dreygur, I think his name was. Man I love that model, wish I could get my hands on it

Yes, Narik Dreygur - a brilliant model!

 

We also have the Davinite Lodge Priest and the wonderful Breacher Marine Sergeant in Mark III that are sought after!

 

I think I'd echo the others that making them available further down the line is always positive - and having duplicates for lots of the above would be helpful for conversions or alternatives.

Davinite lodge priest?? That seems super random to me, what place would it have on the table?

 

I think really as an objective or similar, but it was certainly a great, characterful model!

[Sarvis]

Yeah I looked it up, very neat. but I wish they brought most of these back to the range. I personally would probably buy one of most if not all, just for the added character they bring

[AlexisSonOfDorn]

All of those are still available through recasters.....AKA, the normal way to buy 30K models.

[Noserenda]

All of those are still available through recasters.....AKA, the normal way to buy 30K models.

Whatever helps you sleep at night while actively hurting the game and some poor sods in Russia/China i guess.

[Imren]

 

All of those are still available through recasters.....AKA, the normal way to buy 30K models.

Whatever helps you sleep at night while actively hurting the game and some poor sods in Russia/China i guess.

 

How does it hurt the game to buy recasted FW models that FW decided to not make money from (not producing not selling)?

 

The poor sods in Russia and China are making money and a living out of the recasting market, they would be poorer not doing that. And that they do it in the first place is thanks to FW/GW not producing the specific models anymore and/or pricing themselves out of the market.

 

I can see the moral wrong (regardless whether I agree with it or not) in buying recasted models that FW/GW still makes available, but not when it comes to discontinued or event only models.

Edited November 24, 2021 by Imren

[nagashnee]

Really not the place for recast argument number XXIXVI guys. 

 

Have the navigator and love him to bits. Literally lost the top of his staff.

 

But limited should MEAN limited. If anything release new versions of these minis, so everyone can grab them.

Edited November 24, 2021 by nagashnee

[Gorgoff]

I think there shouldn't be limited models at all.

If the demand is to low to produce, make the STL available to buy.

Problem solved.

FW lives 10 years in the past in this regard and if they don't change they will go.

Which would be a pity because I really like their stuff.

[Bung]

Really not the place for recast argument number XXIXVI guys.

 

Have the navigator and love him to bits. Literally lost the top of his staff.

 

But limited should MEAN limited. If anything release new versions of these minis, so everyone can grab them.

Even If they are limited make them at least available for everyone.

Store exclusives suck.

If you do Limited miniatures at least make them available in your Website for everyone.

Smaller companies are able to do that.

Corvus Belli and TT Combat for example.

 

As said above make those miniatures available once a year together with the Black Bocks in Hardcover as Made to order would go a long way in customer friendlieness.

[sarabando]

Man a yearly made to order run would be the tits

[Noserenda]

 

 

All of those are still available through recasters.....AKA, the normal way to buy 30K models.

Whatever helps you sleep at night while actively hurting the game and some poor sods in Russia/China i guess.

 

How does it hurt the game to buy recasted FW models that FW decided to not make money from (not producing not selling)?

 

The poor sods in Russia and China are making money and a living out of the recasting market, they would be poorer not doing that. And that they do it in the first place is thanks to FW/GW not producing the specific models anymore and/or pricing themselves out of the market.

 

I can see the moral wrong (regardless whether I agree with it or not) in buying recasted models that FW/GW still makes available, but not when it comes to discontinued or event only models.

 

Limited minis is debatably fine but thats not what the guy was saying was it? They said all FW, which is not fine.

 

The poor sods actually doing the casting without any PPE or proper safety practice could probably get a job without cancer if people werent paying for it. Really i dont think someone getting cancer so one could save a few quid on toy soldiers is ever ok.

[Gorgoff]

 

 

 

All of those are still available through recasters.....AKA, the normal way to buy 30K models.

Whatever helps you sleep at night while actively hurting the game and some poor sods in Russia/China i guess.

 

How does it hurt the game to buy recasted FW models that FW decided to not make money from (not producing not selling)?

 

The poor sods in Russia and China are making money and a living out of the recasting market, they would be poorer not doing that. And that they do it in the first place is thanks to FW/GW not producing the specific models anymore and/or pricing themselves out of the market.

 

I can see the moral wrong (regardless whether I agree with it or not) in buying recasted models that FW/GW still makes available, but not when it comes to discontinued or event only models.

 

Limited minis is debatably fine but thats not what the guy was saying was it? They said all FW, which is not fine.

 

The poor sods actually doing the casting without any PPE or proper safety practice could probably get a job without cancer if people werent paying for it. Really i dont think someone getting cancer so one could save a few quid on toy soldiers is ever ok.

 

Ah, you where there and have seen the casting site, yes, yes, yes? ;)

We shouldn't start a moral discussion about whether or not it is ok to buy recasts.

That always leads to price discussion which always lead to anger which always leads to the dark side.

[Imren]

 

 

 

 

All of those are still available through recasters.....AKA, the normal way to buy 30K models.

Whatever helps you sleep at night while actively hurting the game and some poor sods in Russia/China i guess.

 

How does it hurt the game to buy recasted FW models that FW decided to not make money from (not producing not selling)?

 

The poor sods in Russia and China are making money and a living out of the recasting market, they would be poorer not doing that. And that they do it in the first place is thanks to FW/GW not producing the specific models anymore and/or pricing themselves out of the market.

 

I can see the moral wrong (regardless whether I agree with it or not) in buying recasted models that FW/GW still makes available, but not when it comes to discontinued or event only models.

 

Limited minis is debatably fine but thats not what the guy was saying was it? They said all FW, which is not fine.

 

The poor sods actually doing the casting without any PPE or proper safety practice could probably get a job without cancer if people werent paying for it. Really i dont think someone getting cancer so one could save a few quid on toy soldiers is ever ok.

 

Ah, you where there and have seen the casting site, yes, yes, yes?

We shouldn't start a moral discussion about whether or not it is ok to buy recasts.

That always leads to price discussion which always lead to anger which always leads to the dark side.

 

Gorgoff: Sure he was, you don't think this guy worked as a health and safety inspector in recast factories in Russia/China?? ;)

 

Anyways, I agree that most likely UK has stricter HSE laws and processes in the manufacturing industry compared to China and Russia (speaking from my experience in the Russian and UK north sea oilfields). But that does not mean Russians and Chinese factory workers are provided PPE as well as UK workers in UK.

[Bung]

Lets keep the working conditions out of this discussion.

Point is If you buy stuff GW / FW doesnt sell anymore they dont have a financialy loss.

For ethics about that topic, someone should ask for an unmoderated thread where insults and Bad behaviour may ignored by the mods.

Please stay in the lines.

 

 

But i think the common consens is that limited miniatures the way GW does it is not customer friendly and there is a way around that.

[MegaVolt87]

I have Narik and the thunder hammer guy still in its box. At a minimum, these should be a yearly made to order. 

[Cris R]

I have Narik and the thunder hammer guy still in its box. At a minimum, these should be a yearly made to order.

Same with the Tartaros Praetor Tribune. Either that or Forge World comes out with a generic Tartaros Praetor to complement the generic Cataphractii model.

Edited November 25, 2021 by Cris R

[Gorgoff]

 

I have Narik and the thunder hammer guy still in its box. At a minimum, these should be a yearly made to order.

Same with the Tartaros Praetor Tribune. Either that or Forge World comes out with a generic Tartaros Praetor to complement the generic Cataphractii model.

 

Or bring the Tartaros Tribune as a regular.

It looks very cool and is pretty generic.

Easy to convert too because his shoulders and weapon is seperate and good to reach.

[Valkyrion]

I don't really like the models that much.

The Librarian summoning a Bloodletter is as fantastic as it is ironic (why a bloodletter....?) but the rest I think are really below FW standards (Space Wolves not withstanding)

 

I've got the praetor with the two handed blade (bottom right on the OP pic).

 

I don't think any of those minis are as good as a normal legion Praetor. The pseudo Ventanus simply looks like a fake now that the real one has been released, the Primus Medicae looks like a matron from an orphan film (set 40,000 in the future, of course) - cataphractii doesn't look right with a robe/skirt affair, Skorr looks likes he's on stilts, and the two praetors are fine, but only fine. Not great or even close to it. 

 

I don't know the ages of the models, but the BA, DA, WB and recent UM releases are much better sculpts than all of these. 

 

I'd like them to properly release Siege Breaker, Mortifactor, Delegatus etc consuls, generically, as well as a 30k librarian and chaplain. For the latter especially, it's long overdue.

Edited November 26, 2021 by Valkyrion