Tiger9gamer Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 Isn't there a variant that can carry khere cannons? Or is that something I made up? think that is just a regular relic contemptor. I have one that was converted too! but I just don't think I would run it compared to the redemptor or a volkite one. if I need to run 1 cp to run it I want it to count! I am already down 6 CP just in list building ONDIG 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372365-the-state-of-fw-models-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5767527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONDIG Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Is the Redemptor a FW model? Looking at The Redemptor (onslaught cannons) is dumping out around 12 -18 S5 ap-1 shots at 24 and 30inch rng... Not bad at all. Just a tower of power on the mid field. Also relics cost 1cp to run ?makes sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372365-the-state-of-fw-models-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5768266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 It’s plastic so no not FW . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372365-the-state-of-fw-models-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5768292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 Every day I am inching closer to affording some FW tanks. Anyone have any experience with the laser destroyer vindicator or the Sicarans? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372365-the-state-of-fw-models-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5769714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) Every day I am inching closer to affording some FW tanks. Anyone have any experience with the laser destroyer vindicator or the Sicarans? I am constantly tempted by these. But the big problem for me is having to keep up to date with FW rules as well as our own Codex. And the risk of it being discontinued ruleswise, or made utterly redundant. Or opponents getting a bit iffy about FW rules etc. etc. They are awesome but just longterm not viable from a gaming perspective I feel. Edited December 4, 2021 by Brother Kraskor Tiger9gamer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372365-the-state-of-fw-models-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5769722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 Every day I am inching closer to affording some FW tanks. Anyone have any experience with the laser destroyer vindicator or the Sicarans? I am constantly tempted by these. But the big problem for me is having to keep up to date with FW rules as well as our own Codex. And the risk of it being discontinued ruleswise, or made utterly redundant. Or opponents getting a bit iffy about FW rules etc. etc. They are awesome but just longterm not viable from a gaming perspective I feel. yea, that is really the sword of Damocles for anything Firstborn. I feel they are safer because of the HH game, but it is always there. Don't get me started with FW though, This thread is just to look at tactical uses and experiences. Brother Kraskor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372365-the-state-of-fw-models-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5769740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Yeah same goes for Firstborn sadly from that perspective. Not to the same extent though (yet!!). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372365-the-state-of-fw-models-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5769785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 The laser destroyer vindicator is pretty good though and you only need one FW book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372365-the-state-of-fw-models-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5769794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 The laser destroyer vindicator is pretty good though and you only need one FW book. Or games-workshop at the very least! probably going to pick one up just because it's neat... eventually. Between that and the sicararan venator at least! Probably going to pick up a few rapiers as well just for fun, though I am still going for a blitzkrieg style tank army BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372365-the-state-of-fw-models-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5769839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Yeah I always liked the idea of massed Rapiers, shame they are just no good rulewise. BT 5++ makes them slightly more palatable but still not durable enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372365-the-state-of-fw-models-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5769851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 Yeah I always liked the idea of massed Rapiers, shame they are just no good rulewise. BT 5++ makes them slightly more palatable but still not durable enough. hey, if the enemy wants to shoot at my squad of 2 heavy bolters and not a vindicator or tactical squad, sure! I just think they would be fun enough to have some serious dakka for 140pts, or some grav cannons in the back. cheaper than a gladiator reaper at least! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372365-the-state-of-fw-models-in-black-templars/page/2/#findComment-5769892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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