MegaVolt87 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I do think it's worth pointing that part of the issue with the box is just how many options you have for marine starter armies. It's just going to be a lot easier to make a box when you only have one combat patrol to compliment. Marines have several combat patrols, new BT box, are one of the starter set armies, and have the vanguard box. It's just hard to find a combination of models that players are excited about. Its not. They (GW) track individual sales metrics of each product. They just need to put the top sellers in a Christmas bundle at a discount, its literally that simple. The real balance is in the mix of duds to what is popular/ people want to buy, which is how these bundles are really put together. Too many duds and no one buys, too much good stuff and you are giving away the top sellers with a needless discount to move them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372390-new-box-set-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-5766502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARMASTER_ Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) I think it’s a great box to be honest it’s got all the best options for actually filling out or starting an army not just a collection of the lesser selling boxes but mostly the best selling… apart from the speeder which is still a great model Edited November 23, 2021 by BladeOfVengeance Andrés Pacheco 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372390-new-box-set-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-5766512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 I do think it's worth pointing that part of the issue with the box is just how many options you have for marine starter armies. It's just going to be a lot easier to make a box when you only have one combat patrol to compliment. Marines have several combat patrols, new BT box, are one of the starter set armies, and have the vanguard box. It's just hard to find a combination of models that players are excited about. Its not. They (GW) track individual sales metrics of each product. They just need to put the top sellers in a Christmas bundle at a discount, its literally that simple. The real balance is in the mix of duds to what is popular/ people want to buy, which is how these bundles are really put together. Too many duds and no one buys, too much good stuff and you are giving away the top sellers with a needless discount to move them. pretty sure intercessors and assault intercessors are two of the best selling kits… The bigger complaint is that “everyone already has plenty of these troops” So if the primary complaint is that most people already have the majority of the units in the box, simply packing the best sellers into the box won’t likely alleviate that complaint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372390-new-box-set-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-5766699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I do think it's worth pointing that part of the issue with the box is just how many options you have for marine starter armies. It's just going to be a lot easier to make a box when you only have one combat patrol to compliment. Marines have several combat patrols, new BT box, are one of the starter set armies, and have the vanguard box. It's just hard to find a combination of models that players are excited about. Its not. They (GW) track individual sales metrics of each product. They just need to put the top sellers in a Christmas bundle at a discount, its literally that simple. The real balance is in the mix of duds to what is popular/ people want to buy, which is how these bundles are really put together. Too many duds and no one buys, too much good stuff and you are giving away the top sellers with a needless discount to move them. I think it's easy until you start factoring things like your last point. I do think if they had made a bundle where heavy intercessors were the main focus it would have been better received but I just think that are so many marine starters that it's hard to make something exciting. I'm at the point where I don't buy bundles anymore. I just don't need to add to the plastic shame pile, but I think they should focus on other armies for these bundles. It's good for the game for other armies to have good starting points and besides the marine bundle I would recommend any of them to new players. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372390-new-box-set-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-5766729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) I do think it's worth pointing that part of the issue with the box is just how many options you have for marine starter armies. It's just going to be a lot easier to make a box when you only have one combat patrol to compliment. Marines have several combat patrols, new BT box, are one of the starter set armies, and have the vanguard box. It's just hard to find a combination of models that players are excited about. Its not. They (GW) track individual sales metrics of each product. They just need to put the top sellers in a Christmas bundle at a discount, its literally that simple. The real balance is in the mix of duds to what is popular/ people want to buy, which is how these bundles are really put together. Too many duds and no one buys, too much good stuff and you are giving away the top sellers with a needless discount to move them. I think it's easy until you start factoring things like your last point. I do think if they had made a bundle where heavy intercessors were the main focus it would have been better received but I just think that are so many marine starters that it's hard to make something exciting. I'm at the point where I don't buy bundles anymore. I just don't need to add to the plastic shame pile, but I think they should focus on other armies for these bundles. It's good for the game for other armies to have good starting points and besides the marine bundle I would recommend any of them to new players. 10 HIs, 3 aggressors, 3 inceptors, gravis captain, and stormspeeder and I’d be jumping on this easy, no doubt about that. Edited November 23, 2021 by Inquisitor_Lensoven Jorin Helm-splitter and MegaVolt87 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372390-new-box-set-thoughts/page/2/#findComment-5766757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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