templargdt Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Question for the forum. I'm working on my vanguard vets for knightfall, and I put the terminator honors Pauldron on the models. Do I have to paint them as sword brethren or can a Templar earn terminator honors without being inducted? Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372464-rank-and-painting-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneTrueZon Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) Veterans have been specifically noted in the new codex as their own thing, and that it is usually from the Veterans in which SB are chosen. So you could totally have a Vet who has done the rounds and has experience in TDA, Jump Assault, CQB, and not be a SB. The codex also states that there are some who purposefully stay in their rank and do not ascend to SB status even though they could be inducted. All hail the codex. EDIT: ALSO of note, the original 4th ed Codex listed Terminators and Sword Brethren Terminators as separate units. Edited November 27, 2021 by TheOneTrueZon templargdt and Gederas 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372464-rank-and-painting-question/#findComment-5767806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
templargdt Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 Much appreciated, thanks, I forgot about those entries in the 4th edition dex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372464-rank-and-painting-question/#findComment-5767827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 EDIT: ALSO of note, the original 4th ed Codex listed Terminators and Sword Brethren Terminators as separate units. I believe you're mistaken here We had three terminator squad entries. all with Sword Brethren in their name: Sword Brethren Terminator Command Squad, Sword Brethren Terminator Squad and Sword Brethren Terminator Assault Squad. Only real difference between the first two entries was that the command squad was listed as specifically having a sergeant (and so has a power weapon instead of a fist), and it was bought under command as an addon to a commander. Sword Brother Adelard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372464-rank-and-painting-question/#findComment-5767869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 The 4th book even specifically said that only Sword Brethren were trained how to use TDA. That's obviously been watered down in the Primaris age. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372464-rank-and-painting-question/#findComment-5767882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) The 4th book even specifically said that only Sword Brethren were trained how to use TDA. That's obviously been watered down in the Primaris age. Can't let firstborn have cool units anymore with swordbrothers! nope, only primaris can be the ultra cool guys now, with everyone looking up to them. If GW wanted better integration and fan acceptance, then giving all vets the sword brother key words would have been easy. still painting my vanguard vets as sword brothers tho Edited November 28, 2021 by Tiger9gamer BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372464-rank-and-painting-question/#findComment-5767975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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