JPs for Primaris CC units 2022? - WH40k:Space Marine 2

[Majkhel]

As in the topic description - do you guys think we will get finally Jump Packs for dedicated Primaris CC units in 2022 based on WH40.000 Space Marine 2 trailer?
Protagonist clearly has a new type of Jump Pack which seems a cross between a regular Power Pack and Inceptors' JP

For those that did not see it - the trailer:

And here are screenshots I did from the trailer:

Edited December 10, 2021 by Majkhel

[Sergeant Centurion]

The jump pack looks like a mix between inceptor trusters and supressors fins. Maybe its a sing or maybe not, time will tell. I hope in the game we can swap in some parts our tipe of armour and go in gravis/phobos to.

[Majkhel]

Inceptors also have those fins.

Gravis would definitely be cool! Not sure what the Phobos armour could add to what is supposed to be a hack-and-slash game where you just storm through your opponents instead of sneaking around. But still, perhaps we would be getting just that.

After all in theory there's no piece of equipment a Primaris Lieutenant couldn't get his hands on 

[Sergeant Centurion]

Sorry, my fault, i mean a more look like the supressors jumppack. If the game have this secuencies with JP action i doubt to phobos armour have a place in it.

But i cant lie, i want to go full gravis punching and flaming tyranids! And use plasma incinerators to. 

[Jacques Corbin]

Oh, my almighty Emperor yes! Please please please jump packs for Primaris. Make all of us Raven Guard and Blood Angels players very happy to spend our hard earned money.

 

I really want a phobos squad to go with Shrike. Of course a jump pack Chaplin will be a must have. But, yeah a Tacitus armored unit would be great as well, especially for Blood Angels if they can be Death Company. Which, should not any mark of Primaris armor be included? I mean, an Aggressor or a Reiver succumbs to the Black Rage, and we are to believe they either holds still, or are sedated, so their armor can be changed out, really?!

[BloodyB]

I would love Tactics jump infantry, and dearly hoped that the assault intercessors from the 9th ed starter set was a sign that we might get some. If the option becomes available, I would probably take my local gaming store manager's arm off in my rush to grab some.

 

If they include Phobos armour I SM2, I don't doubt that there will be at least one forced stealth section. I don't think it will be bad, but I can't see them not making that choice.

[Jacques Corbin]

What they really need in a Space Marine game, is play as a Chaplain. Crozius, pistol options, but use your litanies to buff the Astartes around you and swing the tide of the battle.

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

Doubtful that we'll EVER see a Primaris jump option that's as simple as throwing a Jump Pack onto an existing Tacticus model. Every single Jump iteration we've seen so far - Inceptors, Suppressors, Shrike - ALL have armor that is tailored for jump duty even before the backpack's jump capability is added. Look at the boots - they ALL have maneuvering thrusters. We're not going to be throwing jump packs onto Intercessors or Assault Intercessors or regular character models. Nope, you want a jump squad or jump character, you're going to pay for a jump squad or a jump character. A cheap set of jump pack bits ain't going to be an option.

 

You can even see this in the second photo - Titus has armor with boot thrusters as well as the jump pack. Of course, the game may very well allow those boot thrusters to magically disappear along with the backpack jump array with the press of a button, but it won't happen that easily in the tabletop game.

 

If anything, Titus' jump sequences might give an indication of what an Omnis-armored Assault equivalent will look like.

[Dracos]

Still would prefer an Assault Inceptors. It would “cover” a hole in the Primaris line of deep striking Gravis=Terminator.

 

 

On a more selfish note: yeah a Assault Suppressor/Phobos unit Shrike can party with would be flavorful.

Edited December 10, 2021 by Dracos

[Sergeant Centurion]

On warcom says this "you might notice that the jump pack pattern he’s using is a little unfamiliar. In fact, you won’t have seen it anywhere before, because it’s a brand-new pattern designed by the Warhammer Design Studio for the Mk X Tacticus armour used in Space Marine 2.     " so i doubt to see it on a new unit for now. And probably no Inceptor role in game to.

[Jacques Corbin]

See, this is why we tell our brokers to buy up GW stock when the value drops. In a perfect world, B&C would have a broker who plays 40K start a fund we could invest in that acquires GW stock, and a few others to ensure profitability, until that fund is big enough to get a seat for its representative at board meetings. But no, they hit us up for donations every year or two...

[Dark Shepherd]

Valrak is teasing some big Primaris news so maybe....

 

Jump Assault Primaris is inevitable. Big question is armour type. Either way its the type of thing that would shift a big oul summer box and we can reasonably predict a Shadowspear esque level of one this summer

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

Valrak is teasing some big Primaris news so maybe....

 

Jump Assault Primaris is inevitable. Big question is armour type. Either way its the type of thing that would shift a big oul summer box and we can reasonably predict a Shadowspear esque level of one this summer

 

I'd be in favor of that, but the only reason I'm not expecting a Shadowspear-style release this edition is that any box along the lines of either Shadowspear or Indomitus / Dark Imperium will have not just new models, but new units (at least insofar as the rank and file squaddies). And those new units would have to include a new Troop choice unless GW completely abandons previous design philosophy.

 

With that in mind, I figure the generic Primaris line is only good for maybe one more Troop-type squad and such a squad would be more likely to debut in the intro box for the next edition in 2023 or 2024. Thus why the rumors of Eldar taking the protagonist slot in the upcoming spring box against Chaos made sense to me (this is the exact spot in the schedule where Shadowspear appeared back in 2019).

 

BUT... I could be wrong one way or the other. Maybe there is indeed just a single Troop squad left to show up, but GW has other plans for the 10th-edition launch box and so they'll cough them out this summer as you suggest.

 

OR maybe they do indeed have more than one Troop squad left in the can.

 

I have trouble imagining what that could be, though. I don't see them reverting Scouts back to Troops and even if they did, that would be a weird unit to position as the frontline force in a battle box that wouldn't otherwise be made up of Phobos marines (assumption on my part there, but how many more Phobos-armored squads could there be?)

 

No, I've been figuring that IF there's another Troop squad on the way, it'll be the Gravis equivalent of the Incursor and Assault Intercessor dynamic - a Troop squad whose FOC designation is Close Support rather than the Battleline thread shared by the Infiltrators, Intercessors, and Heavy Intercessors. And even THAT I don't take as a certainty, I could just as easily see such a squad having the Elite role.

 

I guess it's not impossible that they'd do a combo of Troop and Close Support that were jump-capable or even bike-mounted, but that would just be bizarre - either of those would be expected to fall under Fast Attack rather than Troop.

 

And I'm not hanging my hat on yet another armor pattern showing up either (meaning I don't expect to ever see an Omnis squad with the Troop role).

 

So, I still wouldn't put money on another Marines vs. Whoever box this edition to be made up of new models, but I wouldn't mind being wrong.

 

(And yes, there's always the chance that they'll introduce a Troop squad specific to one chapter to bypass this issue, but I can't see them doing that in a tentpole release that they really want to push to all Marine collectors/players. More chapter-specific units are definitely on the way, but I don't see them being featured in a battlebox. More likely a monofaction army box like the Templars got).

[Marshal Reinhard]

Jump packs I can stick on my assault intercessors is really the last big thing I'd want for my Templars (beside maybe a bigger land transport, come on, I need something that can fit a full 20 man crusader squad... and perhaps some sort of Neo-terminators)

 

VERY interested to see where this is going.

Edited December 10, 2021 by Reinhard

[Sarvis]

Agreed, jump marines and new termies are really what I’m hoping for

[Jorin Helm-splitter]

Still would prefer an Assault Inceptors. It would “cover” a hole in the Primaris line of deep striking Gravis=Terminator.

 

 

On a more selfish note: yeah a Assault Suppressor/Phobos unit Shrike can party with would be flavorful.

 

I think there is room for both though. Have a jump pack upgrade for assault intercessors/Incursors, and then gravis jump unit with some flashy loadouts. Assault marines would probably need to become a troop choice to compete with them, but honesty that would make sense for enough chapters that they should consider it.   

[phandaal]

Wonder if Assault Intercessors would stay as Troops if they had jump packs. We would have a fast, flying Obsec Infantry unit that also covers off on the Troop tax. That might even be too strong.

[Guest Triszin]

Rad

[Dracos]

I could see the BT Neophytes becoming a Troop choice of “Primaris” Scouts in a summer box set.

[Jorin Helm-splitter]

Wonder if Assault Intercessors would stay as Troops if they had jump packs. We would have a fast, flying Obsec Infantry unit that also covers off on the Troop tax. That might even be too strong.

 

I think they would to be fine as troops, they're fast but they aren't durable same goes for assault marines. At the end of the day you could charge more for their jump packs if they warp the format but I don't think that they would. 

[Lord_Ikka]

Well, since Suppressors don't have their own kit yet, I can see them adding in a melee weapon sprue and doing a release that allows you to make Suppressors/Assault Somethings. It isn't exactly the same, but it would allow them to get a Primaris jump unit with melee weapons.

[phandaal]

 

Wonder if Assault Intercessors would stay as Troops if they had jump packs. We would have a fast, flying Obsec Infantry unit that also covers off on the Troop tax. That might even be too strong.

 

I think they would to be fine as troops, they're fast but they aren't durable same goes for assault marines. At the end of the day you could charge more for their jump packs if they warp the format but I don't think that they would. 

 

 

I certainly would not complain if Assault Intercessors just got jump packs as an option and otherwise stayed the same.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

It would be cool, but the game isn’t canon and isn’t made by GW themselves so I wouldn’t put too much faith in this

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

Well, since Suppressors don't have their own kit yet, I can see them adding in a melee weapon sprue and doing a release that allows you to make Suppressors/Assault Somethings. It isn't exactly the same, but it would allow them to get a Primaris jump unit with melee weapons.

 

That's what I've been expecting for a couple of years now. And it wasn't an original thought of mine - someone else here or on another forum made the same observation probably shortly after we saw the MPK Infiltrator squad with the Incursor option.

 

Yeah, it just makes sense - unless they somehow bling out Suppressors with additional weapons options and/or other bits, the obvious route to go is to offer them as a dual-build. And an Assault Marine EQ in Omnis makes more sense than anything. Although that said, I still do expect they'll also release a Vanguard Vets EQ in Shrike-pattern Phobos armor. But the differentiation there is that I see the Shrikey guys as more melee-oriented (likely with twin Lightning Claws as one loadout) while the Omnis Assaulty guys would still have at least a ranged option.

 

It would be cool, but the game isn’t canon and isn’t made by GW themselves so I wouldn’t put too much faith in this

 

One hundred percent this. Plus like I said above, simply adding jump packs to existing Assault Intercessors would seem to be a direct violation of the design philosophy for Primaris. Even Titus in the game footage has boot thrusters. We're unlikely to get jump capability in any Primaris model that isn't designed for it from literally the ground up.

[Dark Shepherd]

Lord Nord makes a good point about BIG boxes having troops choice

 

Eldar v Chaos is due in the spring

HH box is due February ish

Big summer releases 2019 were Contrast and Warcry. Specialist games almost all up to date except AT and would that be big enough?

 

AOS got the big summer slot last year.

Something 40k will have been planned for this summer

 

If Heavy Intercessors hadnt have beem delayed over last Christmas we'd be looking at an 18 month window without a generic marine release

 

Maybe maybe Eldar v Chaos box is pushed back to take the slot

Or they break the format of the box, cos marines sell the best and theyve run out of troop options, and we get a biker orientated box for example

Or jumpcessors are an expensive troop choice

Or we just get a big release wave of marines (some chapter specific or orientated) this summer to tie in with the supplements

 

Cant see phobos getting jump packs as they have infiltrate or grapnel launchers already

Edited December 11, 2021 by Dark Shepherd