Acebaur Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Some things that SB have going for them that makes them a worthwhile unit They ignore passions You can combat squad them so you can have 2x of the special weapons that are worth taking (TH and LC) in one squad They have an exploding 6s strat which is really good They are cheap for what they do They are all Sword Brethren Why is this last point important? Because there are several things that trigger off of being a Sgt/SB, notably Champion of Feasts and Revered Repositories. This means that unlike other squads you can give one guy the Feast strat, like say a TH. And another a relic like the Sword of Judgment or MC weapon(LC is a good option here) You can then further buff another model with a Relic Bearer upgrade to further increase damage output. BLACK BLΠFLY, templargdt, Schlitzaf and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5751884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Have the rules spilled somewhere? How do people know what they can do now? Codex reviews are out now and some sellers have gotten the box early. I have the book already. They are on a weird space where I cant say what to do with them but I think they WILL find their space in lists. 111 points for 5 guys with 4 chainswords and one double claw seems okay to me. I think they are a MUST HAVE because they ignore passions for example, are cheap and the Stratagem which can make them Obsec Is B - O - S - S Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5751886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Some things that SB have going for them that makes them a worthwhile unit They ignore passions You can combat squad them so you can have 2x of the special weapons that are worth taking (TH and LC) in one squad They have an exploding 6s strat which is really good They are cheap for what they do They are all Sword Brethren Why is this last point important? Because there are several things that trigger off of being a Sgt/SB, notably Champion of Feasts and Revered Repositories. This means that unlike other squads you can give one guy the Feast strat, like say a TH. And another a relic like the Sword of Judgment or MC weapon(LC is a good option here) You can then further buff another model with a Relic Bearer upgrade to further increase damage output. Have the rules spilled somewhere? How do people know what they can do now? Codex reviews are out now and some sellers have gotten the box early. I have the book already. They are on a weird space where I cant say what to do with them but I think they WILL find their space in lists. 111 points for 5 guys with 4 chainswords and one double claw seems okay to me. I think they are a MUST HAVE because they ignore passions for example, are cheap and the Stratagem which can make them Obsec Is B - O - S - S He said the same. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5751893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I answered earlier but forgot to click do send the message^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5751894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Drukhari be worry now . Very Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5751897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I have the book already. Truly, the faithful are rewarded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5751905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrum_Sanguinis Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Really looks like Sword Brethren works best when equipped with...swords. beefeb and Sarvis 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5751923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Bretton Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I don't have the main SM codex so don't have access to the rules for bgv. I'd be grateful if someone could give a brief summary of squad size, options and special rules just out of interest for comparison, appreciating that they fill different roles based on what people have been saying. I intend to convert some from the SB kit when it is released so it would be good to know what options they have and howany models are in a squad lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5751991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Bladeguard are 3-6, all have 3 Wounds, a damage 2 power sword and storm shields. Giving them a 2+, 4++ profile. They are very tanky and hit hard too, with 3 attacks each and 4 on the Sergeant, with access to some of the relics and strats in the new book, they will be even better. Its kind of a shame that Sword Brethren didn't become a keyword for veteran units, as them ignoring passions would also be really cool, but I can see why. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUnlikelyGamer84 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Combining their exploding 6s strat with Fervent acclimation litany could give them a second Vow like auto wound on 6s with no drawbacks. Could be really good combo. Especially with Grimaldi as he gives them extra attacks too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Bretton Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Bladeguard are 3-6, all have 3 Wounds, a damage 2 power sword and storm shields. Giving them a 2+, 4++ profile. They are very tanky and hit hard too, with 3 attacks each and 4 on the Sergeant, with access to some of the relics and strats in the new book, they will be even better. Its kind of a shame that Sword Brethren didn't become a keyword for veteran units, as them ignoring passions would also be really cool, but I can see why. That's great thanks, definitely going to be converting a full squad from the new SB box then, just need to find some shields. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargingSoll Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) What are peoples plan for them, I'm gonna have them at 10 man with 8 swords and 2 hammers and go off to fight elite targets on their own. Gonna have my chaplain with my big crusader squad. What support are you guys gonna give them if any. Edited October 10, 2021 by ChargingSoll Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 What are peoples plan for them, I'm gonna have them at 10 man with 8 swords and 2 hammers and go off to fight elite targets on their own. Gonna have my chaplain with my big crusader squad. What support are you guys gonna give them if any. No idea yet, but will prolly end up magnetizing them at the shoulders to be able to swap loadouts. The models + BT forgeworld stormshields should also make some nice BGvets Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Bretton Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I'll do at least 1 squad of 5 with everything just for modelling and then any game squads I think will be 10 man with max th, LC and pyre pistols mixed in Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I'll keep 'em separate from BGV myself. Sure it'd be a nice-looking conversion, but BGV are already quite good for a BT aesthetic. Though I am swapping the shields where I can. What exactly I equip them with will remain to be seen, though I'll magnetize them anyway like the rest of my Templars so far. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
painting.for.my.sanity Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Given the number of BGVs, VVs and Terminators I currently have (I've basically got half a Codex-compliant chapter's first company), and the size of my backlog even before this release (three Land Raiders!) I'm probably just going to stick to one box for now, and do them as a display project, rather than worrying too much about loadout. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Any news on the SB box contents apart from the 4 depicted models? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Any news on the SB box contents apart from the 4 depicted models? Wargear lets them all take chainswords or powerswords so we should see extras of those in the kit. Additionally it's a 5 person kit and 1 of them can be a Castellan or a Sword Brethren (presumably based on how you build them). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 question is what to do with them. I think the only way to play them right now is like MSU concept to play them as often as possible to do actions when you play abhor the witch vow and clearing objectives cheap and in commandphase turn them into obsec Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T14 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 question is what to do with them. I think the only way to play them right now is like MSU concept to play them as often as possible to do actions when you play abhor the witch vow and clearing objectives cheap and in commandphase turn them into obsecSo run them as scalpels, rather than hammers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Can you run them as lighting claws x1, powerfist x1, thunder hammer x1 and the rest swords? Seems pretty potent to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 No power fist option for sword brethren Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 the whole codex doesnt work in any way to me. Each little idea I have doesnt work because even sword brethren in primaris crusadersquads dont have access to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) the whole codex doesnt work in any way to me. Each little idea I have doesnt work because even sword brethren in primaris crusadersquads dont have access to it.Except it does? We've already got a whole thread of combos :) Sure there are some model limitations but all factions have that now or coming soon when kits are updated Just look at Skitarii, they got limited on special weapons Edited October 11, 2021 by Charlo BLACK BLΠFLY and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmu Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Eh, let him complain, Medju's just getting it all out of his system in one go. He wanted the heavens, but was only handed the skies. One shouldn't put the bar on the level of the broken armybooks, or on the shoulders of two standout stratagems. Sword Brother Adelard, Kastor Krieg, Oxydo and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/2/#findComment-5752492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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