Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 He wanted the heavens, but was only handed the skies. This is a lovely expression. Kastor Krieg and Hadda 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5752499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Hammer, claws and swords sure sounds good to me and much better than VAIS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5752594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Would've loved to go all lightning claws or take storm shields. Sticking to blade guard for durability. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5752657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 You can do that with VV or terminators already so meh. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5752661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Eh, let him complain, Medju's just getting it all out of his system in one go. He wanted the heavens, but was only handed the skies. One shouldn't put the bar on the level of the broken armybooks, or on the shoulders of two standout stratagems. I wanted heaven (rerolls) but just handed the skies (weak Vows)... But in same time me was taken my child (advance + charge) !!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5752669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Eh, let him complain, Medju's just getting it all out of his system in one go. He wanted the heavens, but was only handed the skies. One shouldn't put the bar on the level of the broken armybooks, or on the shoulders of two standout stratagems. I wanted heaven (rerolls) but just handed the skies (weak Vows)... But in same time me was taken my child (advance + charge) !!!!!!!!!!!!! Templars were "fast melee" for five minutes because of a poorly worded rule that got corrected. Please get over it, it's so tedious reading the same complaint over and over, it's the fifth thread I read you in, all about the same thing. Come on. Khornestar, Denton25, General Strike and 10 others 13 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5752675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instar-Nine Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Regardless of the rules, they are gorgeous models. I'm thinking of adding jump packs to run them as vanguard veterans. templargdt 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5753363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Eh, let him complain, Medju's just getting it all out of his system in one go. He wanted the heavens, but was only handed the skies. One shouldn't put the bar on the level of the broken armybooks, or on the shoulders of two standout stratagems. I wanted heaven (rerolls) but just handed the skies (weak Vows)... But in same time me was taken my child (advance + charge) !!!!!!!!!!!!! Templars were "fast melee" for five minutes because of a poorly worded rule that got corrected. Please get over it, it's so tedious reading the same complaint over and over, it's the fifth thread I read you in, all about the same thing. Come on. advance and charge was used as intended... Devout push was a bit too tricky so i am curious that is has survived in another curious way^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5753366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Something interesting to note: the Sword Brethren in the Crusader Squad is a 40mm base. GW usually keeps things consistent, so 40mm Sword Brethren? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5753623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 they're all on 40 mm bases yes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5753624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 they're all on 40 mm bases yes It's definitely interesting to note since it means they're more vulnerable to being punched by melee, and definitely pushes them to either MSU or Combat Squad in order to ensure everyone can get into melee. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5753627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenerationTerrorist Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I eagerly await to see how people play these. However, I think for the moment I will stick with running a full squad of Veteran (Assault) Intercessors....9 of them with Chainswords, buffed by a Chaplain could be a real threat for the points outlay. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) I think these guys look decent coming out of repulsors (edit) impulsors. Not fantastic, but decent and for an appropriate cost. An Impulsor and 5 or 6 of these guys will come in under 300 points and do solid, if not spectacular, work. I don't know why people are upset about the weapon options. They let you take what's in the box. All the different power weapons are fine and you can go with all swords if you want. The only issue from my perspective is that it'll make it a bit slower to roll all their attacks. Edited October 15, 2021 by Mandragola Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I'm convinced they're one of the better units for clearing chaff. I think Terminators with TH&SS or Bladeguard are were it's at for taking on elite units. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) I think they are neat. Nothing stops you from running them as Vanguard Veterns who would also be sword brethren, and just using the sword brethren models. I will get some, if only because I love the models. Edited October 16, 2021 by Marshall Mittens Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 played already a game. I see not that many lists where you can use Sword brothers that effective. The best way is to keep them cheap and screen you backfield because you just have to playthem with 4 models instead of 5 and they still benefit from cover. In my lists there would be that much other things I would put in before Sword Brethren... I think they are cool to build them as Seargants for for the other Troopchoices we already have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I think these guys look decent coming out of repulsors (edit) impulsors. Not fantastic, but decent and for an appropriate cost. An Impulsor and 5 or 6 of these guys will come in under 300 points and do solid, if not spectacular, work. I think so too! You can use them with Seal of Sigismund and send them off independently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrum_Sanguinis Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I don't see myself ever giving them anything else but powerswords. I am tempted to give one of them a Hammer because they get them for almost half the points compared to other units, but they're not that durable a unit so I don't the hammer surviving into assault most of the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 played already a game. I see not that many lists where you can use Sword brothers that effective. The best way is to keep them cheap and screen you backfield because you just have to playthem with 4 models instead of 5 and they still benefit from cover. In my lists there would be that much other things I would put in before Sword Brethren... I think they are cool to build them as Seargants for for the other Troopchoices we already have. I think the role for sword brethren (sergeants) is really cool for exactly that reason. Can bring the cool toys and not feel bad when SB aren’t what we want. Lead their less experienced/honored brothers on a glorious crusade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 maybe they are just a small objective cleaner for 100 points when I think about (4SB with PS) Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Their small number means they make an excellent bodyguard for 2 characters in an impulsor. Paints a bit of a target on it, but it works. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 then the opponent just have to kill 2 SB and then shoot your characters^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmu Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I do find the minimum size of 4 strange. What's even the purpose, or is it some kind of a remnant from how marine units usually have 1-4 dudes + 1 Sergeant-equivalent, and they just deleted the line that adds a Sergeant into the unit...? Now that I think on it, that's actually the most likely outcome. No mysteries, just good ol' GW incompetence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) I do find the minimum size of 4 strange. What's even the purpose, or is it some kind of a remnant from how marine units usually have 1-4 dudes + 1 Sergeant-equivalent, and they just deleted the line that adds a Sergeant into the unit...? Now that I think on it, that's actually the most likely outcome. No mysteries, just good ol' GW incompetence. It's because one of the models can be made into a Castellan. Edited October 17, 2021 by Fulkes Palmu and BLACK BLŒ FLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Which is nice, since I'm not gonna get the thiccboi. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/372588-sword-brethren-loadout/page/3/#findComment-5754702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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