Spagunk Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) Given how overcost-ed he is verses other HQ models, I think he needs to be scarier.That said, I still feel the next iteration of Dante should be more of a LOW class with some neat mechanics that make him a master strategist but I'm a weirdo. Edited January 27, 2022 by Spagunk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373025-ca-2022-ba-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5789764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 That said, he's *not* overcosted. He's just not as scary as the 1500 years of experience should suggest! Take a captain and make him equal to Dante and you'll find that he's priced appropriately. I, for one, wouldn't mind paying some more points and making him scarier... Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373025-ca-2022-ba-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5789795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Dante give you 1 extra cp(or 3, if he get killed and you active "only death" with 0cp). 1cp could be treated as worth ~20pts, so he is not that overcosted, just less powerful than some other chapter masters. I wonder how his form will be, when Dante finally receive new model. Maybe not a human form. Helbrecht became a diorama. WrathOfTheLion, Paladin777 and Majkhel 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373025-ca-2022-ba-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5791956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 That said, he's *not* overcosted. He's just not as scary as the 1500 years of experience should suggest! Take a captain and make him equal to Dante and you'll find that he's priced appropriately. I, for one, wouldn't mind paying some more points and making him scarier... I dunno… trajann is 160 versus 165. Better cp. Arguably better leadership. D3 instead of D2. Better toughness. Effectively double the wounds. Same armor save. 5 points less… must be a very expensive jump pack. Majkhel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373025-ca-2022-ba-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5791980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Umm... I just looked at Trajann and he's an absolute steal. He competes with (if not surpasses) the likes of Calgar for 50 less points! That doesn't seem so much like Dante being overcosted, as more like Trajann is undercosted. I call shenanigans! I'm just saying that if you make a Dante clone out of the codex you'll end up paying more in CP, if not in points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373025-ca-2022-ba-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5791985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 We could see some points increase of Trajan before summer. But even after a +30pts, he is still auto-include for custodes players. Paladin777 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373025-ca-2022-ba-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5792004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I think, looking at Drazhar , beastboss on squigasaur etc, that trajann is the new normal. Space marines (and Dante ) have been left behind. To an extent, generic marine hq’s can compensate because they have an unmatched selection of warlord and relic traits… not so with Dante Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373025-ca-2022-ba-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5792660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) Unfortunately, that may be true. Power creep is a thing... Giving the Axe Mortalis damage three would go along way towards evening the gap. Edited February 2, 2022 by Paladin777 dice4thedicegod 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/373025-ca-2022-ba-discussion/page/2/#findComment-5792661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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