Trueborn Inceptors

[Khorneeq]

Hello

 

I'm trying to avoid primaris marines models for now but I have been given inceptors kit and want to use them

 

So I'm looking for ideas how to convert them to de-primarise them.

What firstborn bits should I add/replace?

 

Thanks in advance

[Bryan Blaire]

The term “Trueborn” makes them sound like something out of BattleTech.    Marines would probably fit right in amongst the Clan Elementals…

 

If you don’t want to use Primaris models (since you stated “I’m trying to avoid primaris marines models”), then you’d have to replace the entire kit, since there’s really no way to wholesale stop them being Primaris models - the proportions are different to the classic Astartes models.

 

If you are okay using the models, but want to use them as a classic Astartes unit instead of a Primaris one, you could turn them into Assault Marines by removing the weapons the Inceptors use and give them bolt pistols and chainswords - or you could use them as Vanguard Vets by giving them upgraded CCWs like power swords and lightning claws.  It would also make them fit more to remove their snowshoes attachments on their boots, as well as trim off their hoods and replace their helms with classic Astartes ones (such as Mk6 or Mk7).

[Warhead01]

Hello

 

I'm trying to avoid primaris marines models for now but I have been given inceptors kit and want to use them

 

So I'm looking for ideas how to convert them to de-primarise them.

What firstborn bits should I add/replace?

 

Thanks in advance

I'd thought about something almost like this, using Assault Marines with plasma pistols but gluing two, or three plasma pistols together, 2 or 3 pistols wide and giving those to assault marines. Some cleaning and shaving will most likely be needed to make them look reasonable. 

Hadn't considered it the other way around, Primaris being de-primarised. Maybe just put the arms on assault marines with a little clipping and trimming and maybe see if you can add some of the flight pack parts to a jump pack? No idea what that would end up looking like. I'd do something completely different and skip the Inceptors if it were me. Probably go 3rd party for big jump packs and just mod my pistols if I didn't find any 3d prints I liked. 

Hope this was a little helpful. 

[Khorneeq]

Ok, maybe I'll make myself more clear...
The direction in which GW goes is obvious and Firstborn will become legends sowhere in future, so staying without primaris options isn't going to last forever

I'm using some primaris rules for my Firstborn - I've converted tacticals to make them look like intercessors and it can be said that they just got newer equipment

Now I've been set in different place so I want to make inceptors fit better with the rest of my army

As for now the best idea is to give them beakie helmets, but maybe there are other ways to blend them with old models?

[phandaal]

Primaris models are actually pretty easy to convert into more Tactical-looking models. Cut away the armor plate on top of the knee and replace the helmets with Tactical helmets. That is what I did with several squads of Intercessors.

 

If you want you can also cut down the front gorget to make the profile even more Tactical. If you are going Beakie then you definitely want to cut away that front gorget or they will be stuck looking slightly upwards forever.

 

If I can figure out the picture thing here I will get a shot of my primarinated Ravenwing Apothecary and one of the squads of "Tactical" Intercessors and show you. It is easy to make current Primaris models look like scaled-up OG Marines.

[phandaal]

OK let's see if this works. I make no claim to being a professional painter or photographer!

Tactical Intercessors:

Ravenwing Apothecary:

Edit: Eyy, it worked! You can see the very minor changes required here. For the beaky, notice that the front gorget is gone. Easy step that makes the model look a lot better in my opinion.

Edited February 4, 2022 by phandaal

[Khorneeq]

This is great

Simple but meaningful changes

[Grotsmasha]

Due to the size of the models, the only Firstborn unit that would be close would be Centurions. A small amount of work to add the correct weaponry should be a straight forward affair.

 

Alternatively, you could find a local Facebook swap group and try trade then for a Firstborn unit.

Edited February 5, 2022 by Grotsmasha

[phandaal]

This is great

Simple but meaningful changes

[Venerable Jazzman]

OK let's see if this works. I make no claim to being a professional painter or photographer!

 

Tactical Intercessors: ...

 

 

ok, that's interesting - I've got an entire Company+ of Marines, but I've also got a hobby drawer full of Marine helmets, so maybe there's a way to start adding Cybermen into my old-skool BA without them looking too... new?

 

 

and yes, those are unpainted Advanced Space Crusade scouts, you don't get Venerable in your name unless you've got an impressive Pile o' Shame. At least I've got round to converting them

 

+ also, yes, that is an OP Sergeant Centurius, thanks for asking, and no, he's not for sale

Edited February 6, 2022 by Venerable Jazzman

[jaxom]

Another thing that may help is trimming the grav-plates from the boots (i.e., removing the moon-bounce shoes).

[Casual Heresy]

Why not convert them to look like they are wearing heavily modified terminator armour? The proportions are close, so swap shoulder pads for terminator ones, fit a terminator helmet and shave back the hood so it's closer to the cowl on TDA. Maybe find a way to add the bracing on the back of terminator legs and it could work.

[Khorneeq]

Why not convert them to look like they are wearing heavily modified terminator armour? The proportions are close, so swap shoulder pads for terminator ones, fit a terminator helmet and shave back the hood so it's closer to the cowl on TDA. Maybe find a way to add the bracing on the back of terminator legs and it could work.

Ha ha

I,m using terminators to represent Bladeguard Veterans ;)

[Orange Knight]

I feel that you'll save yourself a lot of hassle if you simply started using Primaris.

 

I can understand the feeling of apprehension to begin with, but we're now 5 years into their range being introduced and expanded.

[WrathOfTheLion]

That is wholly unproductive to just dismiss them when they ask a question on how to do their hobby.

[Orange Knight]

I'm not dismissing anyone. Some good advice has been offered. The Inceptors don't have a direct analogue in the classic range.

 

I'm of the opinion that doubling down on this path will ultimately be counter productive, but that's just an opinion and the TC is free to ignore it.

[phandaal]

I'm not dismissing anyone. Some good advice has been offered. The Inceptors don't have a direct analogue in the classic range.

 

I'm of the opinion that doubling down on this path will ultimately be counter productive, but that's just an opinion and the TC is free to ignore it.

As long as the OP enjoys his models in the end that is really all that matters.

 

Also, I would say that building models which are obviously Primaris but straddle the OG/Primaris aesthetic is the opposite of counterproductive because not only is OP happy but he can use them for Primaris if it comes down to that.

[jaxom]

 

 

Another thing that occurred to me. I've seen people file down the ankle areas to give a look more like Mk7 armor.

[Son of Sacrifice]

Could you convert the inceptors to look like some kind of heavy battle servitor? They have those blast shield face plates.

[Silas7]

The term “Trueborn” makes them sound like something out of BattleTech.    Marines would probably fit right in amongst the Clan Elementals…

Funny my mind went to the Dark city of Commorragh.

[Brother Christopher]

I've been toying with the idea of adding Inceptors to my army for rules' sake. Eventually, I didn't go through with the project. I've had the following two ideas:

 

- use Firstborn/Trueborn Jump Pack units with Inceptor weapons to make a squad of Moritat-like marines, preferably in an amour marked with a reinforced look to it (you could leave the weapon arms and sell/trade the bodies)

- use Inceptors in an as-is condition and explain their size so that they are in a Centurion-like armour; after all, Gravis is quite huge compared to regular Marines; I think that a regular Marine's foot might easily fit lengthwise at the ankle of a Gravis suit and the proper Gravis foot (with the jet ski) would be a part of the exoskeleton;

[phandaal]

Centurion heads do fit well on Gravis bodies. Also the moon bounce parts of Inceptor feet can be cut off easily, leaving only the bit that fits into the notch on their ankle.

 

Looks much better. Usually that is the case with Primaris stuff - get rid of the "over engineering" and stick a new helmet on them and they fit in much better with the classic aesthetic.

[Brother-Chaplain Kage]

I wanted firsborn that used Primaris models and an easy way to get there for me was using intercessors with old helmets, shoulder pads, and the reiver bolter carbines which look like an updated version of the old bolters to avoid the bolt rifle. No weird scale issues to deal with.

 

 

As for the inceptors... I don't really see a way to make them into something plausibly firstborn. They're so unlike anything else in the range.

[Khorneeq]

This is how it looks like

Tips from phandaal were very helpful, thank you very much  

I'm really pleased with result

Edited April 9, 2022 by Khorneeq

[derLumpi]

Can you show that marine from the side please? Edited April 9, 2022 by derLumpi